WYP
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Virgin Media brings Gb Broadband to the UK for £62
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g0ggles1994
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And yet OpenReach is still limited to 76Mb since the BT execs pocketed all the government grants.
I know the chancellor pledged £5 billion for FTTP by 2025 but I bet most of that will be pocketed by the OpenReach execs instead.
I know the chancellor pledged £5 billion for FTTP by 2025 but I bet most of that will be pocketed by the OpenReach execs instead.
Yeah dazbobaby is right, research on replacing copper started under nationalised BT in 1974 and development of fibre began in 1979, by the time they began to be partially privatised in the mid 80's they'd developed it to a point where it was cheaper to roll out than copper and work began on creating mass manufacturing facilities, by 1990 they had built two factories and the worlds first wide area fibre network and were ready to replace copper across the country... then Thatcher, blinded by ideological globalism and a religious belief in the free market, decided it was anti-competitive for BT to be so far ahead and have a "monopoly" on fibre and it would scare off American companies, so Thatcher made them call off the wide roll out, sell the factories to Fujitsu and HP, and sell off most of the expertise to SE Asia and America during BT's full scale privatisation.
All so private companies could sell our tax/public-funded technology back to us 2 or 3 decades later at several times the price, since they just milked copper for as long as they could instead as of course they didn't have the greater public interest in mind(Efficiency and wider new tech gains of high speed internet), just profit (Similar thing happened in America with AT&T but those were more from court rulings).
All so private companies could sell our tax/public-funded technology back to us 2 or 3 decades later at several times the price, since they just milked copper for as long as they could instead as of course they didn't have the greater public interest in mind(Efficiency and wider new tech gains of high speed internet), just profit (Similar thing happened in America with AT&T but those were more from court rulings).
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demonking
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And again those riding the waves of Capitalism are preventing progress. I honestly think that the world is starting to have enough of it and I can see socialist parties and far left/right parties taking more seats in Parliaments in the future. Then the real mess will start as those with the money and power will not be happy to let it go to the general populace. They will make our lives hell and blame it on the socialist ect..
Sorry went off on one.. Would love this but Virgin are really bad at throttling connections based on "fair use policy" breaches. and £62 for internet...
Unless you're like me (and about 36,000 others) who have g.fast. I get 330Mb/50Mb but it was an absolute nightmare to get it stable, 10+ engineer visits.
They have not done that on Residential or Business connections for years.
Last month my bandwidth usage was over 1TB down and over 500GB up including uploading over 200GB to YouTube in 1 day.
Not once was the connection throttled by VM intentionally, but it did slow down down by about 5Mbp/s during peak times due to natural congestion.
Yeah the issue with VM is their reliance on cable, makes the speeds their capable of delivering heavily dependant on usage in your local area, when I lived in a student area (Where the student deals make basically everyone go with Virgin), we'd get ~150Mbits on our 100Mbit line in the middle of the day but like 8Mbits sometimes at peak time (in the UK the advertised speeds has to be available at least half the time though, we banned wishy washy "Upto" style marketing in 2013), and it'd randomly cut out for the whole area for half hour like once a fortnight or something.
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Dicehunter
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We need affordable decent internet first, 100Mb up and down needs to be in the £20 price range.
dazbobaby
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You don't get "affordable" good speeds without high-end high speed options.
If they were all the same speed, then the prices would be roughly the same too.
g0ggles1994
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I am generalising a bit, I know G.Fast is rolling out but it's too small in reach right now, and it's redundant calling it that since it still uses FTTC and can only do around 300Mb/50Mb. To me Gfast should infer it's possible to get 1Gb down.
Problem I find with when rolling out Gfast is that they should go whole hog and go full FTTP since in the future, they're going to need to do that anyway.
