Undecided - HDDs or SSD

Mullet

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Guys,

Toying with throwing more cash at my rig and want to invest in some rapid storage. I have a pair of Samsung 750GBs for storage sand want some decent drive/s for OS/apps/games...

I am torn. Considering dropping 2 150GB Velociraptors into my system... and RAID 0 ing them.

Or...

Should I go SSD?
 
All depends on your budget dude tbh as the veloci's will come in cheaper, and you have to go carefull what SSD's you buy as the cheaper ones are pants
 
SSD's definitely give you that 'wow' factor when you first install them in your rig. However as mrapoc said, the degradation of them is a b*tch, so for that reason I wouldn't pick any SSD that doesn't have an automatic cleanup facility in its firmware.
 
See if any HDD drives are due to come out with a "6gbps" logo on them.

I'd personally forget SSD as an option unless u have bags of cash.
 
personally, i haven't rly noticed any performance degredation on my vertex.

but then ocz do have the manual wiper app which i run every now n then just cos

and they have new firmware in testing with TRIM and garbage collection built in
 
name='Pyr0' said:
personally, i haven't rly noticed any performance degredation on my vertex.

but then ocz do have the manual wiper app which i run every now n then just cos

and they have new firmware in testing with TRIM and garbage collection built in

Yeah its very wise to run it. My Vertex RAID array has gone to complete sh*t after about 4 months use. Problem now is that I've got all the crap of putting them in another machine if I want to flash them with new FW as i have a feeling that you cant flash while they are RAID'ed.
 
name='Freak' said:
Why do they degrade? Is it like normal HDDs getting fragmented?

as the drives are used, cells are written to. but then when data is deleted, the cells aren't emptied, just marked as deleted.

this is usually not a big problem because of wear levelling algorithms allowing the drive to only write to that same cell again after every other cell has been written to once.

but after all the cells have been used, when the drive comes to write more data to a previously filled cell, it has to physically erase it before writing again, causing slowdown.

TRIM support will change this. As you delete a file, the OS sends a TRIM command as well and clears the cells as required or cleans when idle

Write amplification also plays a small part if the smallest block that can be written to is larger than the data being written. in which case the whole larger block of cells has to be read, the smaller data added then all written back to the ssd again

the vertex and other indilinx based drives actually suffer from degredation much less than the intel and samsung drives (according to anandtech)

name='Jim' said:
Yeah its very wise to run it. My Vertex RAID array has gone to complete sh*t after about 4 months use. Problem now is that I've got all the crap of putting them in another machine if I want to flash them with new FW as i have a feeling that you cant flash while they are RAID'ed.

yeah, need to change to IDE mode for flashing :(

if you are on 1.30 already, i think the future flashes should be non-destructive
 
The SSDs will be much faster.

Instead of the Raptors, I'd get 3 or 4 Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB drives and run them in RAID 0.

They use two 320GB platters, so they have a really high data density.
 
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