Samsung To Buy AMD?

[ShaunB-91]

Its no secret that AMD are struggling in the PC market to keep up with technology giant Intel, and to be quite honest I believe they have been since Intel released their first ever multi-core CPU series, the Intel Core 2 Duo.

Whether it was true that Intel stole the multi-core idea from Intel is unsure, but since 2006 it seems AMD have had a real struggle for dominance in the quickly advancing market.

Earlier in the week, three executives quit AMD after a new CEO was appointed last fall. Its possible the new CEO may have wanted a new team to help run AMD, but even with a new team AMD are so far behind in chip sales it doesn't seem likely they would bring them back up and above Intel anytime soon.

With the whole PC mobile industry as a whole facing the threat of Qualcomm this makes it much harder for AMD to survive with the lack of funds available to them. Although AMD has had recent success in partnering with both the Playstation 4 and Xbox One, profits are still in decline.

With the possibility of AMD being acquired in the coming years, would it be better for AMD to look for a buyer at this present time, with both a similar market and goals? Could someone like, say Samsung fit the picture? Lets take a look at Samsung for a moment.

Samsung being such a global dominant force in the mobile industry continues to make billions of dollars in profit yearly, this could help AMD to create better performing, more efficient chips in both the mobile market and the PC market industry with a cash injection.

AMD are currently working on their own custom ARM CPU core, with rumours Samsung is doing the same. When you also take into consideration Apple are rumoured to be working on their own chip as well, if this is to be the case Intel will certainly have their nose pushed out.

In comparison to Samsung, AMD have much more experience in designing CPU's so this is already a benefit to Samsung in their quest for mobile dominance.

To add to Samsung's potential benefits, AMD have some of the best GPU designs on the market, so if implemented in Samsung's work, this could help them take on Qualcomm.

Samsung are also looking to enter the server chip market for its high profitability, but with no experience, they'd have a huge challenge on their hands if they are to take on Intel who already have camp set up in this market. That is, unless AMD who already have experience were to have an input.

What do you think is best for AMD to be in with a chance of taking on Intel again, would Samsung be a good move for the company or do you have someone else in mind that you think could help them?

Leave your thoughts in the comments below, we're very interested to hear your thoughts on this one.

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[barnsley]

Whether it was true that Intel stole the multi-core idea from Intel is unsure, but since 2006 it seems AMD have had a real struggle for dominance in the quickly advancing market.
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Eh?

I'd say ARM would more likely want to buy AMD as opposed to Samsung wanting to buy AMD, but thats just my feeling.

 

[ShaunB-91]

Eh?

I'd say ARM would more likely want to buy AMD as opposed to Samsung wanting to buy AMD, but thats just my feeling.

Quite a while ago, we may be talking years here, AMD claimed that Intel stole the multi-core idea from AMD and got it developed first. Which led to their downfall. I'm sure there will be some info on this online but I couldn't point you to the exact article because it was such a long time ago.

 

[MadShadow]

Intel stole the multi-core idea from Intel

Ah right, is that so?

 

[Thelosouvlakia]

I don't think that Samsung would want to acquire AMD, they have their own financial problems atm

 

[barnsley]

Quite a while ago, we may be talking years here, AMD claimed that Intel stole the multi-core idea from AMD and got it developed first. Which led to their downfall. I'm sure there will be some info on this online but I couldn't point you to the exact article because it was such a long time ago.

Am I the only one confused by Intel stealing from Intel here?

 

[MadShadow]

Am I the only one confused by Intel stealing from Intel here?

Nope

 

[Warchild]

I don't think it is financially good for Samsung to acquire AMD. It is bad enough they are spending millions in R and D to compete in the mobile market as this is where the future is. Other electronic sales such as TVs have fallen rapidly over the last few years and this has affected all companies.

Sony announced its selling its shares in Square Enix to streamline its business and get back to its annual profits of old due to poor electronic sales. Samsung luckily have a good stake in the SSD market, but I don't think they would risk venturing into this market just yet even if they are somewhat already there with the mobile cpus

 

[Excalabur50]

I think it would be a good Idea just look at what happened when MSI worked with Samsung on the memory chips with the 290x Lightning if my memory serves me correctly, but anyway that card was stonkingly good because of the time taken on the memory so a real collaboration between AMD and Samsung could have some amazing results

 

[WYP]

I have made this front page BTW and added a section with my thoughts on the matter.
I have quoted it below for you guys.

My Thoughts

Most of us know that Samsung have had a great relationship with AMD recently, with Samsung providing the largest amount of AMD FreeSync monitors when the monitors start appearing on store shelves within the next few weeks or months. We also know that Samsung have been working on a new mobile GPU to compete with Qualcomm and Nvidia's K1 and X1 SoCs which is yet another reason for Samsung to look at AMD with interest.

One other bonus for AMD if they were acquired by Samsung is that Samsung has their own foundry, which is something AMD has lacked since they separated from Global Foundries in 2009.

Whether AMD or Samsung are in talks remain to be seen, but Samsung have a lot of reasons to look at AMD with Interest.

 

[ShaunB-91]

I'm going to try and find the article on Intel stealing multi-core from AMD. It wasn't just made up in my head.

Edit: This isn't easy, only thing I've found so far is AMD saying Intel don't innovate but its not that, and that was too far back. I think it was 2013.

 

[Draecko]

A lot of markets open for Samsung by acquiring AMD. Fast mobile devices, all-in-one pc's (vs. iMacs), better SmartTV's (built-in htpc?) and a PC market to develop for.
Personally I like Samsung products (I have a TV, phone, SSD's and PC monitors all by Samsung) so I think it'd be a great improvement

 

[RobCrezz]

ince Intel released their first ever multi-core CPU series, the Intel Core 2 Duo.

Really? What about Pentium D? then Core Duo?

 

[Warchild]

I'm going to try and find the article on Intel stealing multi-core from AMD. It wasn't just made up in my head.

Edit: This isn't easy, only thing I've found so far is AMD saying Intel don't innovate but its not that, and that was too far back. I think it was 2013.

Perhaps you are mistaken. I did some searching and came across this article which likes to open up the rivalry between the two brands, however there is no mention of the accusation regarding multicore. The report is dated March 2009. Im not saying you made it up, but perhaps you have it confused with something else going on between the two ?

http://www.cio-today.com/article/index.php?story_id=13100C3LW57A

"Since the late 80s, AMD has been a thorn in the side of Intel," Lineback said. "In 2005, AMD was outperforming Intel. Intel's multi-core chips put it back in the driver's seat for performance. AMD has had more struggle to keep up with Intel since then. Over the past year, there were a lot of question marks as to whether AMD was going to be able to remain a viable competitor to Intel."

 

[ShaunB-91]

Its not that buddy. :\ Honestly I think I remember the site it came from but all I can find there now is AMD saying they have been the innovators not Intel, but I'm 100% positive I read it, I remember being shocked thinking the cheeky sods.

I FB'ed AMD but whoever they have running their page couldn't tell me either. :\

 

[aLEN_006]

But they'll lose x86 licence. Am I right?

 

[NeverBackDown]

Don't think Samsung would buy them.
They need to release new FX cpus based on the newest excavotor(however you spell it!) core. The problem that gamers seem to have with AMD is their single threaded performance. That's not entirely their fault but due to DX11 being so single threaded demanding it hurts them more so than intel. DX12 from what we have seen so far is they improved the loading on the cores and make it more multi core friendly. This should help amd far more than intel, since as we all know, AMD have an edge in programs that use each core efficiently. All this should make them more competitive again..

Also doesn't help that Nvidia has spent fortunes on PC vendors to use and advertise their products more often than AMDs and all the PC gamers have that fanboy mindset from a few years ago that AMD drivers suck.. they are equal and some drivers have faults on both sides. But both sides address them quickly. Also doesn't help that a lot of people don't even consider AMD anymore because of "you get what you pay for" when in fact in some areas AMD are either ahead or tied for same price or cheaper.

Now i'll admit at the very high end AMD is slower. But then again they haven't released anything to change that. Hell 290x vs 780ti was so close that it wasn't worth the extra money for a 780ti(to me). 780ti edged out in benchmarks and some games, 290x edged it on a few games as well.. Just saying

 

[barnsley]

Now i'll admit at the very high end AMD is slower. But then again they haven't released anything to change that. Hell 290x vs 780ti was so close that it wasn't worth the extra money for a 780ti(to me). 780ti edged out in benchmarks and some games, 290x edged it on a few games as well.. Just saying

sometimes I feel that AMD would do better if they didn't have their management. Point in hand is that the 290/290x are great cards and would have done very well at launch IF THEY HAD BEEN ALLOWED TO SELL NON REFERENCE CARDS.

I only got the 780Ti for the reference cooler and looks. I'd have bought a 290x if the temperatures were good in my situation.