Samsung teases its "ground-breaking" Odyssey Neo G9 Super-wide Gaming Monitor

[WYP]

Samsung teases its "ground-breaking" Odyssey Neo G9 Super-wide Gaming Monitor

This monitor will be launched on July 29th.



Read more about Samsung's Odyssey Neo G9 240Hz 5K monitor.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Not as impressive when you realize you can't even take full advantage of this monitor without compression. You'll still need DSC for HDMI 2.1 or run at 4:2:2. Otherwise it's insane non compression bandwidth requires 60.62 Gbit/s!


This should have waited for DP 2.0, but we won't see that until next year at the earliest.

 

[Dicehunter]

This would be my dream monitor -

-34" ultrawide curved
-3440x1440
-240Hz
-HDR1000+
-2000+ dimming zones
-G-Sync/Freesync
-Nice professional design, No gamery edgy crap.

And no need for display compression.

 

[MainSource77]

dsc only needed for full 240hz , 144 will work fine @4:4:4

you can complain that dsc is needed or you can simply set the refresh to 144 or 165 hz as with over 7 million pixels no modern title is coming close to getting 240 fps, then you can enjoy full chroma 4:4:4, 10 bit at 144 hz, i dont see how that is a bad thing

 

[Dicehunter]

you can complain that dsc is needed or you can simply set the refresh to 144 or 165 hz as with over 7 million pixels no modern title is coming close to getting 240 fps, then you can enjoy full chroma 4:4:4, 10 bit at 144 hz, i dont see how that is a bad thing

Well they are releasing a product with marketing checkboxes just to say "Look what we have" but in doing so the product is compromised.

This monitor should be DP 2.0, Then DSC, Which does degrade image quality, Wouldn't be needed, If I'm paying, Likely £2000 for a monitor of this calibre, I don't want to have to sacrifice image quality to use the panels full potential.

 

[MainSource77]

i demand the impossible!

what would you have them do, im not trying to wait well over a year maybe or 2 for dp 2.0 when by that time micro led may be out or some other new tech, i know you feel entitled to something which is impossible, get over it, theres no pleasing some people

 

[AngryGoldfish]

Monitors have had huge compromises since forever and will continue to have huge compromises. I say, buy the monitor that best monitor suits your needs whenever you need one. Critics of all kinds will have all kinds of reasons to not buy a monitor, and that's totally OK. But monitors manufacturers can't wait for the perfect technology to arrive that allows for zero compromise, because that won't ever happen. They have to release a product. Some hate VA for the ghosting and curved screen. Some will only buy VA because of the contrast and curved screen. It's definitely a case of 'pick your poison' and be grateful for what you can get because it's all you're gonna get.

 

[Dicehunter]

what would you have them do, im not trying to wait well over a year maybe or 2 for dp 2.0 when by that time micro led may be out or some other new tech, i know you feel entitled to something which is impossible, get over it, theres no pleasing some people

Drop the attitude, There's no need for it.

No I do not "feel" entitled to it, The monitor is just a marketing stunt, To get the full resolution and refresh rate you have to use DSC, That's not good, It would've been better if they had either waited for DP 2.0 or not bothered with the extremely high refresh rate as to use it you have to compromise on image quality, Doing the latter would've also lowered the price.

 

[looz]

Not a single one of you could tell the difference of DSC in a blind test. (well that phrase doesnt really work in this context)

 

[NeverBackDown]

Not a single one of you could tell the difference of DSC in a blind test. (well that phrase doesnt really work in this context)

You can keep saying this yet Warchild has already told you he could tell the difference since he actually tried it. With that said, why cant we feel like we dont want DSC and have you always say the same thing over and over? Why would I a person who say was spending thousands of dollars on a top end monitor, want ANY sacrifices whether they are valid to you or not? I don't think there should be any compression for the amount top end monitors charge. I would feel cheated. If it had DP 2.0 then I wouldn't care and if using HDMI 2.1 you would be aware it had to have compression, but then thats up to me if I deem 1 DP 2.0 port worth it(which I would), but see this gives options rather than a cut and dry must use compression.

 

[MainSource77]

Just curious, what is wrong with lowering the refresh slightly to 165 or 144 , then no compression is needed for 4:4:4 at 10 bit, seeing as how 240 fps is un attainable for any game i can think of that is made after 2015. Is it just knowing that one of the settings is not turned to 11? Im truly baffled by these disappointed commenters and am happy I dont have to wait another year for this monitor, as long as the QC is addressed.

 

[Dicehunter]

Just curious, what is wrong with lowering the refresh slightly to 165 or 144 , then no compression is needed for 4:4:4 at 10 bit, seeing as how 240 fps is un attainable for any game i can think of that is made after 2015. Is it just knowing that one of the settings is not turned to 11? Im truly baffled by these disappointed commenters and am happy I dont have to wait another year for this monitor, as long as the QC is addressed.

You've missed the point completely.

It's not about entitlement or any of that bull, 240Hz is nothing more than a marketing checkbox as anyone who values image quality is not going to use it because of the issues that come with DSC, They could've used a 144Hz capable panel, Still had all the HDR bells and whistles, High res etc...

This would've brought the price down but as it stands the 240Hz checkbox is just there to say "look what we have" and is a complete waste as no one who values image quality would use it because of said DSC issues, No different to a few years ago when some of the first 4K monitors were TN, No one serious about image quality would buy them but companies could say "Look we have 4K monitors".

 

[AngryGoldfish]

You can keep saying this yet Warchild has already told you he could tell the difference since he actually tried it. With that said, why cant we feel like we dont want DSC and have you always say the same thing over and over? Why would I a person who say was spending thousands of dollars on a top end monitor, want ANY sacrifices whether they are valid to you or not? I don't think there should be any compression for the amount top end monitors charge. I would feel cheated. If it had DP 2.0 then I wouldn't care and if using HDMI 2.1 you would be aware it had to have compression, but then thats up to me if I deem 1 DP 2.0 port worth it(which I would), but see this gives options rather than a cut and dry must use compression.

I wasn't saying myself that it's not OK to not want DSC or not to want to feel cheated out of your money. What I was saying was, the perfect monitor for everyone doesn't exist. Each of the technologies and designs have glaring issues. It's about finding a monitor that has issues you can live with. If you just cannot abide an expensive monitor that uses compression, the monitor isn't for you. It still should exist though, because for many it'll be amazing. Monitor technology isn't about spending more money to get fewer compromises. The technology for a no compromise setup doesn't exist. In many sectors of the market, paying more and more gets you closer and closer to 'perfection' or 'idealism' or 'zero compromise'. Go to VW garage with a budget of €15k, you'll get a car with compromises. Go to a VW garage with €100k and you'll get a car with no compromises. But the monitor market has proven that such a thing doesn't exist. You can't spend €2k on a monitor that has everything and is awesome for everyone. This Samsung monitor still uses a VA panel, something many gamers wouldn't touch with a ten foot barge poll. Ideally this monitor would have DP 2.0. But Samsung has deemed that there is a market right now for this monitor. Their Odyssey line has been incredibly popular, so it makes sense they'll continue pushing it rather than wait for more ideal circumstances.

 

[Dawelio]

You do know that NBD had quoted looz and not you in his post right?

 

[AngryGoldfish]

You do know that NBD had quoted looz and not you in his post right?

Oh, yeah, I know. I'm just awkwardly talking to myself. xD Hah!

 

[Peace Ð]

Now, the real question is whether the old model will get cheaper and if it doesn't make sense to simply get that one if you're willing to sacrifice some features.