WYP
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Will Ryzen 2 also offer IPC improvements?
Read more about AMD's Ryzen 2nd Generation 2700X processor.
Read more about AMD's Ryzen 2nd Generation 2700X processor.
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Ryzen 2700X spotted - How much faster is it than a 1700X?
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Dicehunter
Resident Newb
I hope the single threaded performance is better and closer to an 8700K than Ryzen 1st gen is.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
It's really only a refresh though. It'll definitely be closer to the 8700K, but if its max single core turbo speed is still 'only' 4.3Ghz, it'll be a good distance behind the 8700K. The 8700K can turbo up to 4.6Ghz with some motherboards, right? And has superior single core performance from other areas of the architecture as well. With the overclocking headroom left over that some are able to push to 5Ghz, the 8700K will continue be the gaming king. And I reckon Intel will keep that mantle for many years. Maybe Zen 3 will see AMD compete core-for-core. If Intel did nothing for the next two years then Zen 2 might stand a chance, but I don't think they're going to do that, not now, not any more.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
It's the second revision. Not a refresh. There will be architectural improvements. A refresh would just be increased clockspeed.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
I thought Ryzen 2 was just going to offer a higher clock speed on a new manufacturing process?
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Technically Ryzen 2 comes next year, This is Ryzen+ or Zen+ as it's called with Zen2 making its debut next year.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Yeah, that's what I meant.
This is great but it still won't get me to build a new desktop PC. With the price of DDR4 and GPUs still being ridiculously high, it doesn't really make sense to upgrade if you have anything relatively recent.
Basically, I will be sitting here using my 6700HQ/1070 laptop until memory and GPU prices come back down to alright prices or if my laptop fails - I still have 2 years or so left of warranty coverage so I will hopefully get to upgrade due to the first reason. :\
Basically, I will be sitting here using my 6700HQ/1070 laptop until memory and GPU prices come back down to alright prices or if my laptop fails - I still have 2 years or so left of warranty coverage so I will hopefully get to upgrade due to the first reason. :\
This is just a refresh.
Zen+ it's called. It's on a smaller node with small changes.
Zen 2 (next year) will be a new node.
Avet
Active member
Probably not. Zen 2 maybe. I just wish they would improve single thread performance. If you work in let's say Photoshop or DAWs Intel is still the only option.
ImprovizoR
Well-known member
Exactly what happened to me as well. I wanted to upgrade to Ryzen this year, but I see no point considering the prices of GPU's and RAM. So I'm currently stuck with an i5-4590 and a GTX 970. I might just pick up a used i7 somewhere instead if I need more CPU power. On top of that my government had increased VAT from 7% to 21%.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
I can't find any evidence to suggest Ryzen+ is anything more than a refresh.
Quoting Anandtech:
"AMD has categorically stated that the core microarchitecture underneath has not changed: we will still have the same front-end and back-end as Zen, with the same size caches and the same layout. What has changed will be some of the power management algorithms, and perhaps some tweaks to the neural network-based prefetch algorithms."
