Raja Koduri is leaving Intel

[WYP]

Intel's Chief Architect is leaving to found an AI startup.



Read more about Raja Koduri's departure from Intel.

 

[Dicehunter]

There are in the neighbourhood of 1,000,000+ AI startups at this point, Each as pointless as the next.

 

[meuvoy]

Damn... Well, I guess that's that then, can we call it quits for intel's not moving forward with discrete GPUs?
Or should we say Intel's next GPUs will be even better with better management than Raja on the leadership position?

 

[AlienALX]

Damn... Well, I guess that's that then, can we call it quits for intel's not moving forward with discrete GPUs?
Or should we say Intel's next GPUs will be even better with better management than Raja on the leadership position?

Whilst I don't know the future him leaving is meaningless as to whether they will move forward.

Remember - Jim Keller left AMD years ago, look at Ryzen.
Raja left AMD years ago - look at Radeon.

Apparently Raja is a helmet, so this could well be good riddance. Too many egoes spoil the broth etc.

 

[dazbobaby]

Obviously his startup fund wasn't in SVB

 

[KingNosser]

Good news for intel the guy is a pleb.

I don't feel Intel want to end arc but i do feel it's going on hold, not ready for prime time and sure not got the funds to support it, is why all the cards are going dirt cheap i doubt they have made any money other than making some progress into that area of tech.

So i expect anything remotely decent from Intel is a very long way off.

Wouldn't suprise me at all if you start seeing others leave or cut, but hey maybe they will keep some of the team and move forward internally on something for a later date.

I honestly feel Intel need to refocus cause as good as some aspects are i think they are in bad shape and when AMD come out with Zen 5/6 if Intel are not ready they are going to hurt more, so in my view they need to refocus so they don't end up in worse shape moving forward.

28.46 USD
-19.93 (-41.19%)past year

Think that about sums up Intel atm but tech in general isn't going great guns, even nvidia had way lower stock price middle of the year, amd down as well just not hit as hard as Intel atm.

 

[meuvoy]

Whilst I don't know the future him leaving is meaningless as to whether they will move forward.

Remember - Jim Keller left AMD years ago, look at Ryzen.
Raja left AMD years ago - look at Radeon.

Apparently Raja is a helmet, so this could well be good riddance. Too many egoes spoil the broth etc.

I understand, but the way I see it this probably means one of two things: Intel is indeed either cancelling ARC or just reducing drastically it's funding and so Raja is leaving as to not be known as the head o the sunken ship and further feed the jokes and speculation about his incompetence.

Or intel pressured Raja to leave on good terms as to try and keep as much dignity for him as possible while restructuring the discrete GPU division.

I really find it hard to believe Raja would just wake up one morning and decide to leave to open just another AI startup that will probably be losing money the next 5-10 years and end up just diying a slow death once funding eventually dries up. The likelihood of a new startup breaking profitability in general is already vey small, and in an specific field with so much competition RN and that is so hard to simply keep track of copyrights and avoid infringing on them, entering this market with profit in mind is almost stupidity.

Either way I am hoping I'm just wrong and really he just left off his own free will, while Intel will keep investing heavy on it's discrete GPU division, but as someone who does have intel stock I like to be pessimistic as to be ready for the worst.

 

[AlienALX]

I understand, but the way I see it this probably means one of two things: Intel is indeed either cancelling ARC or just reducing drastically it's funding and so Raja is leaving as to not be known as the head o the sunken ship and further feed the jokes and speculation about his incompetence.

Or intel pressured Raja to leave on good terms as to try and keep as much dignity for him as possible while restructuring the discrete GPU division.

I really find it hard to believe Raja would just wake up one morning and decide to leave to open just another AI startup that will probably be losing money the next 5-10 years and end up just diying a slow death once funding eventually dries up. The likelihood of a new startup breaking profitability in general is already vey small, and in an specific field with so much competition RN and that is so hard to simply keep track of copyrights and avoid infringing on them, entering this market with profit in mind is almost stupidity.

Either way I am hoping I'm just wrong and really he just left off his own free will, while Intel will keep investing heavy on it's discrete GPU division, but as someone who does have intel stock I like to be pessimistic as to be ready for the worst.

They have been trying to get rid of him for ages dude. Two or three years ago I watched an article about what was going on at Intel, and apparently it was a big bunch of egg heads all strutting around like c-ock hens pretending to be god.

This is why there has been so many problems in Intel. Like I said, too many egoes etc.

From what I can see? his work is done. The design is done, it works, the drivers are being improved week on week. Now whether they decide to shrink it? make bigger ones? keep on? I really don't know. The timing was probably the worst part. Had they got it out 6 months earlier? it would have been brilliant. People were desperate for GPUs, and that would have meant sales and market share. Sadly it was too late, and by then everything had crashed around them. You can get second hand GPUs very cheap now. Case in point I paid about £340 for a 6700XT Strix quite a while ago now.

And the problem is when the prices are in line no one will buy an Intel GPU because of the early awful drivers.

 

[meuvoy]

People were desperate for GPUs, and that would have meant sales and market share. Sadly it was too late, and by then everything had crashed around them. You can get second hand GPUs very cheap now. Case in point I paid about £340 for a 6700XT Strix quite a while ago now.

And the problem is when the prices are in line no one will buy an Intel GPU because of the early awful drivers.

I think it was a giant lapse of judgement, once they saw that their perfect window was gone, they should have just changed plans and not gone ahead with the launch. Finallizing development, and probably reaching ARC 2 before actually launching any product to the market.

Or, from the start just not going directly to discrete. They could just have made their integrated graphics stronger untill they got most of it right and then, finally moving on to discrete, I'm adamant drivers would not have been a problem if they did it this way.

 

[KingNosser]

The drivers were Intels biggest issue and were always going to be starting from scratch, when you think how many years ATI/AMD Nvidia were ahead on that with solid teams catching up to even be decent is a massive task. With parts of other companys experience mixed into that while things didnt go well and were in all honestly very late, they have made progress.

I think after all invested into it they wont want to ditch all the work, but imho ARC is on hold they will work in smaller teams in the background until something is ready and viable that will come out on time.

Coming out on time for Intel is a huge problem regardless of the reasons behind raja leaving good or bad he was 100% given the boot.

I feel that it'll be late next year if you even see a similar product from Intel and anything after that most likely alot longer when a node is ready for them to compete.

AMD I feel haven't even gone next gen chip yet it's just not a leap from AM4 to AM5 it's an iteration, Intel need to be ready for when that chip comes along as honestly i feel they are going to get hit very hard by it sometime next year.