Plane Hijacking via Android
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alpenwasser
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Interesting read, indeed. I would call this less than confidence inspiring 
Although I can't say I'm actually surprised. A friend of mine is a pilot for Swiss, and
the stories he tells about the planes and the systems (especially the software) are
... also less than confidence inspiring.
Although I can't say I'm actually surprised. A friend of mine is a pilot for Swiss, and
the stories he tells about the planes and the systems (especially the software) are
... also less than confidence inspiring.
I'm surprised that all that data is unencrypted and anyone with the right tools can read/modify it.Interesting read, indeed. I would call this less than confidence inspiring
Although I can't say I'm actually surprised. A friend of mine is a pilot for Swiss, and
the stories he tells about the planes and the systems (especially the software) are
... also less than confidence inspiring.
Care to share some of those stories?
Can't say that I've heard many of them.Why wouldn't it be legit?
alpenwasser
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Tbh, this does look pretty legit. If it's a hoax, it's a rather elaborate one.
And ask yourself this: If it is a hoax, can we afford to not at least investigate
further and see if there is not some truth to it?
I'm certainly not about to go panic about flying (and I do think that the media
have a tendency to panic when there's no cause to do so a lot of the time),
but in the long-term this probably should be looked into.
It just shows that these systems, along with the majority of the infrastructure,
are decades old, and encrypting that stuff just wasn't necessary back then.
And since the only thing that counts is the bottom line (some would argue
that the lives lost in possible accidents matter as well, but the only reason
those lives matter to the plane's manufacturer is because bad reputation
will hurt profits IMHO), and adding additional security measures is expensive,
you don't implement that if you are the manufacturer unless you absolutely
have to.
Care to share some of those stories?
Well, it's a bit tricky because there's no clear narrative. It's more like little tid-bits
here and there.
Mostly it's not necessarily about something going wrong but something being
implemented in such a way that usability suffers. So in order to get the plane
to do what you want it to do, you have to do some non-intuitive work-around.
Then there's stuff like screens suddenly going blank (you know, the ones that
display flight data
), switches not working properly and so on.Also, they need to use some sort of special software to calculate how much
fuel the need to tank and at what thrust levels they need to take off (since
that depends on winds, temperature, humidity, weight). That software doesn't
run on the airplane itself but on a laptop. It's made by Airbus and seems to be
an absolute usability nightmare. To paraphrase his opinion:
"The interface of Windows 3.11 looks beautiful and is a dream of usability
compared to this shit.".
Considering that a plane is such an immensely complex system and that profit
margins in the airline business are very low (meaning passengers are cheap little
shits that don't want to pay any money for something that should be a lot
more expensive than it actually is :lol: ), it's not really astonishing.
But definitely discomforting, at least to me
Chris230291
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Chris230291
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AND
Cant see any false flagging using this. The planes still require the soft squiggly bit behind the controls by law.
Cant see any false flagging using this. The planes still require the soft squiggly bit behind the controls by law.
alpenwasser
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I thought so.
Indeed. I do think it's reason for concern, but not immediate panic
I can't even start to imagine something like that :lol:.
alpenwasser
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:lol: :banghead:
dalewakelin
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So how exactly do i hijack a plane because i wouldn't mind a new garden feature...
nepas
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Annnnnnd,it just goes to show you have made yourself look like an idiot.
This is not a joke.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2417707,00.asp
http://www.techspot.com/news/52211-...n-airplane-using-an-android-app.html#comments
Amazes me,how they let these HUGE gaps in security lapse
alpenwasser
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Cost, my friend. As long as no lives have been lost and the media haven't
started their preemptive shitstorm the planes' manufacturers don't care
because their reputations are not being threatened. And the politicians
won't create new legislation unless scared into it by the media because
who would pay for their campaigns if they antagonize some very wealthy
donours? :lol:
So as long as nothing happens, everybody is perfectly happy doing nothing
and making money. It's the way of the world
grassman
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I also remember months before 9/11 the media warning about a possible plot in New York city where the World trade center would be blown up. Ten years later and think it's pretty damn obvious it was let to happen. Moral of the story don't believe everything you read.
Thanks for calling me a idiot because you are incapable of reading between the lines. Do the research on what type of signal is being passed then present to us everything you've learned.
You mean Contrails / Chemtrails?
It's a law now to spray people with aerosol?
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alpenwasser
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Chris230291
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LOL yeah.
grassman
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btw Still loving your government after watching this all unfold?
http://www.infowars.com/boston-bombing-culprits-found/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbwvChN8dQg
http://www.infowars.com/boston-bombing-culprits-found/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbwvChN8dQg
alpenwasser
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Nobody ever said anything about loving anyone's government IIRC.
Chris230291
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I can't say that this being possible surprises me at all, but without doubt this needs to be looked at by either the software-related plane guys or someone alike (A professional name for someone like that eludes me).
Technology (soft & hard-ware) are forever ongoing, progressing and changing - there will be more and more stories of similar things being controlled with tablets. I recall watching various videos on automatic doors on shops being "hacked" or whatever you call it, those televised-billboards being adapted, all from a tablet, some even a smart phone.
All I'm gonna say is Watch_Dogs.
Technology (soft & hard-ware) are forever ongoing, progressing and changing - there will be more and more stories of similar things being controlled with tablets. I recall watching various videos on automatic doors on shops being "hacked" or whatever you call it, those televised-billboards being adapted, all from a tablet, some even a smart phone.
All I'm gonna say is Watch_Dogs.
