Opteron 1xxx series. Discussion

[K404]

I saw for the first time some examples of what these can do and.... are those benchmarks real?? 32xxMHz on good air?

Will these CPUs work on our NF4 939 boards with our favourite non-ECC memory?

For the price these go for (£175 max from what i`ve found) and such overclocking potential... is the FX57 about to be usurped by a CPU thats about 20% of the price??

Any info, hints, tips welcome.

Kenny

 

[Phil Stanbridge]

What cache do these chips have?

 

[Vrykyl]

these opterons are a full 1mb cache san diego core - but being opterons they are more rigerously tested for stability etc before going on sale....

 

[maverik-sg1]

Single Core Opteron Sockt 939 Brief Specs

1Mb Cache, multi locked upwards so the Opteron 144 runs at 1.8Ghz with a max x9 multiplier - making max overclock 2835Mhz (assuming TCCD ram can do 315Mhz and that 1:1 ratio with ram is required).

What makes these desireable is the heat output of 67w, which is a a lot lower than a 3700 San Diego as are it's power requirements (but all this could be relevant to the clock speeds they are running at.

If you were going to get one it would be the 148 (if there is such a beast) which should run at 2.2Ghz (logically stepping upwards from 1.8Ghz for the 144), giving a max multiplier of 11 which in turn gives a max overclock of 3.41Ghz (assuming 310Mhz on RAM can be achieved and 1:1 Ratio with memory is required).

Yes they are socket 939 and will run in a DFI current BIOS.

I have seen the 144's on pre-order at £105 plus vat - but have not yet seen the other models

Interesting though.

Mav

 

[JAFFA]

I have a 144 on order, should arrive early next week with a bit of luck.

I've yet to see any results posted for these at sub zero temps which is what I'm most interested to see. The crucial thing really is how these behave under phasechange at high HTT, my boards good up to at least 405 with a 2/3 divider so fingers crossed... not gonna get my hopes up though.

 

[Vrykyl]

a certain city of cpu's has had in a batch of 146 opterons with a 10x multi, but they sold almost instantly

 

[K404]

They are in stock at a certain online shop... the 148 is indeed the 2.2GHz model and I`m VERY tempted...especially with some of the possibilities that might be opened up to me in the next few weeks/month or so. Something a bit new for the forum, if it works out

Ooohhh....I want one of these..

@mav..where did you get the OC ratings from, and that are the numbers based on?

Cheers,

Kenny

 

[Vrykyl]

Hey k404 - it says youve exceeded your pm storage space!

 

[K404]

I`m too damn popular... 2 minutes and I`ll make some space



K

Try now (10.33AM)

 

[cyclepath]

They are in stock at a certain online shop... the 148 is indeed the 2.2GHz model and I`m VERY tempted...especially with some of the possibilities that might be opened up to me in the next few weeks/month or so. Something a bit new for the forum, if it works out

Ooohhh....I want one of these..

@mav..where did you get the OC ratings from, and that are the numbers based on?

Cheers,

Kenny

I think the certain online shop's ones are not 939's. I believe only the city shop has the 144 939 version If I'm guessing right

 

[maverik-sg1]

That is correct only one supplier has got the socket 939 units on their site to pre-order.

Other units out there right now are skt940 - beware.

Only the Opteron 144 is currently being advertised in socket 939, seem weird that a 'binned' San diego cored unit would be less expensive than models currently available?

Mav

 

[Phil Stanbridge]

Who'd be interested in the 144's if I can get them?

 

[jellybeard999]

Who'd be interested in the 144's if I can get them?

Yes sir

 

[Vrykyl]

or a 146 for the x10 multi

 

[maverik-sg1]

or the 148 for the 11x multiplier

 

[Vrykyl]

tho a 148 is pretty much a 3700+ san diego in all but name...be interesting to see if itl be cheaper...afaik i didnt think the opteron 939's werent gonna come out past 146 to avoid cutting off the high end a64 SD cores....same with opteron dual cores...theyre staying skt940 for the same reason....

 

[cyclepath]

i'd be very interested in 146/148

 

[Smurfy]

1Mb Cache, multi locked upwards so the Opteron 144 runs at 1.8Ghz with a max x9 multiplier - making max overclock 2835Mhz (assuming TCCD ram can do 315Mhz and that 1:1 ratio with ram is required).

What makes these desireable is the heat output of 67w, which is a a lot lower than a 3700 San Diego as are it's power requirements (but all this could be relevant to the clock speeds they are running at.

If you were going to get one it would be the 148 (if there is such a beast) which should run at 2.2Ghz (logically stepping upwards from 1.8Ghz for the 144), giving a max multiplier of 11 which in turn gives a max overclock of 3.41Ghz (assuming 310Mhz on RAM can be achieved and 1:1 Ratio with memory is required).

Yes they are socket 939 and will run in a DFI current BIOS.

I have seen the 144's on pre-order at £105 plus vat - but have not yet seen the other models

Interesting though.

Mav

Correct me if im wrong but there is no penalty for not running 1:1, if that is the case these chips are seem to be amazing value, 3.2Ghz on Air ( -18 or something though) was achieved which is better than all but 1 FX57 iv seen.

What makes these desirable to me is the possability of getting FX57+ performance for 120 Quid cpu, i myself have got one comming at some point.

You mentined a lower heatoutput than a san diego, well i cant comment first hand but they are infact reported to run significantly hotted than san diegos at similar speeds.

Its all over at XS for those that wanna check the results.

 

[maverik-sg1]

Correct me if im wrong but there is no penalty for not running 1:1, if that is the case these chips are seem to be amazing value, 3.2Ghz on Air ( -18 or something though) was achieved which is better than all but 1 FX57 iv seen.

What makes these desirable to me is the possability of getting FX57+ performance for 120 Quid cpu, i myself have got one comming at some point.

You mentined a lower heatoutput than a san diego, well i cant comment first hand but they are infact reported to run significantly hotted than san diegos at similar speeds.

Its all over at XS for those that wanna check the results.

Reference the temps (I think I should also have said Power consumption) - the ratings only show stock not overclocked - but point taken if you mean at similar clocks to the other San Diegos the Opteron runs hotter - I had not seen enough information to comment on anything other than stock.

Stock heat output on the Opteron 144 is 67w Versus 89w for the San Diego Strange, how the 3700 and 4000 have the same thermal output, makes you think if the 146 will be the same as the 144).

The possibility of running at 3.2Ghz off of a 9x Multiplier means you need a motherboard that will do 356Mhz FSB ( and I mean do, not quoted) The DFI NF4 SLI board allegedly goes beyond 400Mhz - my particular model gets stuck at 296Mhz, but that might be due to Phase cooling, but then does that mean this model would be in experiencing similar issues in the same motherboard?

Ram dividers do count for a performance hit, but I guess at 356Mhz FSB it might not be such an issue or nearly as noticeable at lower FSB speeds. In PCMark04 I ran my X2 4800 @ 261*12 but ram was running at 5:4 divider, score was 8400ish marks - put ram back up to 1:1 and I cracked 9000.

3.2Ghz plus can be achieved by any other San Diego cores (3700 is 11x multiplier, 4000 is 12x etc etc etc...)

Like I said it will be interesting to see how these models perform in a normal environment - but if FX performance is the norm rather than the exception then mighty impressive it will be at £120 who's gonna spend £690 on an FX57?

Personally I am as excited as everyone else, who's gonna be the first to buy one?

Mav

 

[K404]

I can try and be the first unless someone else sees them in stock before and has more ready money

Wouldnt matter if I was the first though...About 60% of EPUK have better cooling than me!