OC3D Review: Asus 9600 GT

After seeing the slick-look of the 8800GT stock cooler (looks alone), after not liking the double-slot coolers, the fan-on-a-card appearance to me looks awful >.<

One heck of an oc on that sucker mind u. Bit of a breathe of fresh air from the latest GT/GTS cards, which were woeful clockers imo - and tempremental in the process.

There`s only one thing that holds this mid-range card back for me, cos I do think it seems like a good mid-gamer (rts, tame fps, media), and that`s it`s price in comparison with the ATI variety that can beat it in performance.

Around £127 with £150ish GT out there.. I dunno.

Thanks for the read m8.

The audio work well on the hdmi ?
 
Hmm looks like it didn't do well, not a very good start to the 9 series :p

Looking forward to the 9800 review though :)
 
It isn't mean tot be high end though, its to replace the 8600GTS. Id say it does its job quite well in that respect.

But considering the 3850 I cant see how this is any good.
 
name='Hatman' said:
It isn't mean tot be high end though, its to replace the 8600GTS. Id say it does its job quite well in that respect.

But considering the 3850 I cant see how this is any good.
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That's the thing

I see no point in comparing it with the 8600, Nvidia did a bad job on that one and it sucked, they shouldn't get points for actually making a card that didn't suck as much as it's predecessor

But ye, it gets beat by the lower priced HD3850:rolleyes:
 
name='Rastalovich' said:
U reckon the 8600 sucked ?

As in comparison to another ATI variety ? Or performance over the 7600 ?
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I think it was priced too high for what it was and performance wasn't amazing
 
And then ATI bring out the HD3850 and it completely re-writes the books, it just really is the mid range card of choice, no doubt about it
 
What helps it too is ATI seem to prefer to majorly lower clocks rather then lock hardware out.

So tons of boost from OC'ing :) on one hand you have half a card with 9600gt, on the other you just have a downclocked 3870 lol.

I guess a 9600GTS may come out with higher clocks later on haven't heard much on it though. The 100mhz overclock or w/e it was seems to indicate something like that may happen.
 
This is the FIRST review i've read that the 9600GT performs lower than 3850.

After looking at your test specs I found that you are using an OCed 3850, comparing to a stock speed 9600GT. Lots of 9600GT manufacturers dont even release 9600GT at stock speeds...
 
name='eeto' said:
This is the FIRST review i've read that the 9600GT performs lower than 3850.

After looking at your test specs I found that you are using an OCed 3850, comparing to a stock speed 9600GT. Lots of 9600GT manufacturers dont even release 9600GT at stock speeds...
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It's also one of the first using a 512mb card

I am using a card that compares in price to the card I was given to test. The pure fact of the matter is that you can buy the fastest HD3850 for the price of a stock clocked 9600GT
 
name='Hatman' said:
What helps it too is ATI seem to prefer to majorly lower clocks rather then lock hardware out.

So tons of boost from OC'ing :) on one hand you have half a card with 9600gt, on the other you just have a downclocked 3870 lol.

I guess a 9600GTS may come out with higher clocks later on haven't heard much on it though. The 100mhz overclock or w/e it was seems to indicate something like that may happen.
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I don`t see the current market for these GTS cards in all honesty.

It is right tho, a 9600GTS will come out and be basically just under what Kemp`s managed to get out of the GT.. + £50 or something.

With different manufacturers pricing their cards 10-25 pound different to each other, u can almost predict a fan-spread from £125 to £155 of 12 differently labeled 9600 cards, in steps of 10 or so mhz. Trying to cover every1`s cash position artificially (cos of course there`s a variation shop to shop too).

I dunno. And of course as Kemp points out, the 3850 underpins them all.
 
name='Kempez' said:
It's also one of the first using a 512mb card

I am using a card that compares in price to the card I was given to test. The pure fract of the matter is that you can buy the fastest HD3850 for the price of a stock clocked 9600GT
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Then your review is based on price/performance on that exact price. Price is important, but it's not a constant factor and definitely not on newly released cards. It varies from retail, supply and demand, mail-in-rebates, bundled software.

IMO, if you think exact price/performance is that important, you should throw in more testing samples. A reference design, an OC version... and on sidenote telling others this is more expensive. I agree price/performance is important factor, but you cant control price, and they drop every freaking single day. You are doing a review on 9600GT's performance... now you are just doing a price/performance review, focusing on value determined by price, which changes everyday in all ways.

EDIT: more stuff to add.
 
This is a mid-range card, pricing is paramount.

On top end performance cards I would agree, price goes out the window, especially at launch. However, if you're buying a mid-range card: price is obviously a consideration or you'd be buying a high end card. I can only use prices at the time of review and as stated in the conclusion, if and when the price drops then things may change, although ATI are also likely to drop prices as well.

If I "threw" in a non-OC version 256mb and it performed below the 9600 GT but was half the price, which card is a better card?

A lot of the reviews I've seen have been "engineered" to flatter the 9600 GT, I simply don't believe in doing that.
 
name='Kempez' said:
I can only use prices at the time of review and as stated in the conclusion, if and when the price drops then things may change, although ATI are also likely to drop prices as well.

If I "threw" in a non-OC version 256mb and it performed below the 9600 GT but was half the price, which card is a better card?

A lot of the reviews I've seen have been "engineered" to flatter the 9600 GT, I simply don't believe in doing that.
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Using MSRP price as a base to show a cards performance with very limited testing samples, is just not fair to compare ANY cards. Price in GPU nowadays have too much additional variables to counted as a good base to used as a reference.

We rarely buy things at MSRP to begin with, and also manufacturers have LOTS of flexibility to modify their products. Those are the real things we buy. Even using the same chip core but different manufacturers, they bundles different games which worths differently, the price means different for every single person.

Maybe just imo, but a review should be a comparison of performance and let consumers decide on the price value since price is a more subject to variation thing. You can give an overall average score of a card's performance, and do a price/performance chart if you want to bring out the price/performance idea.

The price/performance scale is NEVER linear to begin with....
 
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