Oblivion weird graphics?

[Red_Devil_Rocker]

I have told Toxcity about this before and he's seen it.

Basically whenever i turn on distant land i have some weird square spotty like graphics. Its very hard to expalin so ive used FRAPS to show you visually.

The strange thing is that when i walk over to these odd graphics, they simply dissappear and the actual landscape is shown. If i turn off all distant stuff it works fine, just there is a fog where the distand land should be.

Anyone got any ideas? Its been doing it before and after ive overclocked. Havent got any other GFX cards to try. This is a BFG 7900GTX 512mb so it should be top notch - well, until these 8800's came out!

 

[Toxcity]

All I can say is VISTA!

Or your graphic driver. Either go back a few.. or see if there is a fix!

 

[Ham]

looks too me like the distant textures are rendering very, very poor quality. As tox said, its probably vista/vista drivers.

 

[Rastalovich]

Urgh, seeing screenshots of that game gives me the shivers. One of the poorest written games I`d seen in ages.

Anywho, in the past game designers would work on the basis that the further the horizon is from u, the less detail should be required. Compensating for the effect of a character`s sight over distance. This being the norm, the quality tends to be less important to them. It almost works as a parallax effect.

I am assuming here that u`r refering to the `grainyness` to the distant objects (personally I`d be complaining at the writers for making the rocks look too blatent, and the water edges ugh - but meh).

How the game looks on a 7900GTX w/512 I can`t comment, on a really well written game, I would expect u to have screenshots capable of blowing people away with the detail, so I can understand u being a bit alarmed.

I know the game grains up quite alot the lower spec card u use, but as I said I would have thought u`rs would be more than capable, but this is Oblivion.

On an 8800 it looks nice. But u shouldn`t have to buy an 8800 to make it look nice.

What options are u using for it ?

 

[Toxcity]

Rast I'm sorry matey but this one you are not 100% correct!

You are correct about the further away the less quality. But this is extreme.

Look at the piccars you see the dotty landscape.. that is a graphical error.

I don't get it.

Basically it isn't meant to be there. When you get closer to the distorted terrain it appears properly.

I have seen this error in person and in some cases the water disappears all together.

I believe Oblivion was a really well written game. It is just that the Havok game engine is very hungry.

Rast, could you show me some prove of Oblivion showing the bad coding? Or silly errors?

Hennerz all I can say is it is drivers or OS.

 

[Ham]

There is an nvidia driver floating round that is optimized specifically for oblivion, i dk if its vista but maybe give it a try?

 

[mVp24]

Rast I'm sorry matey but this one you are not 100% correct!

You are correct about the further away the less quality. But this is extreme.

Look at the piccars you see the dotty landscape.. that is a graphical error.

I don't get it.

Basically it isn't meant to be there. When you get closer to the distorted terrain it appears properly.

I have seen this error in person and in some cases the water disappears all together.

I believe Oblivion was a really well written game. It is just that the Havok game engine is very hungry.

Rast, could you show me some prove of Oblivion showing the bad coding? Or silly errors?

Hennerz all I can say is it is drivers or OS.

Agreed.

Rast dont kill me <3

 

[deathwish]

thats what its ment to be like

 

[Ham]

Seeing that screen make me wanna install it again...

/wipes up drool

We've debated that long and hard the quality of the writing of the game before. So lets get onto that again.

 

[deathwish]

yea allot of work is still needed like it crashes when you quit forceing you to restart your pc :crazy:

but the graphics are great though it aint bad considering 30fps with a 7900 gto

 

[Red_Devil_Rocker]

but the graphics are great though it aint bad considering 30fps with a 7900 gto

Agreed. Theres nothing wrong with running it on a 7900GTX. You dont NEED an 8800 to rub it. My little bros are running it on an AGP 7600GS without probelms.

I personally prefer my grass to be turned off though because otherwise you miss all the plants and the objects on the floor

I passed it across to my mates machine using his 8800GTS and these bad graphics are still occurring. When he plays his own saved game using distant land, his looks fine. It isnt something to do with my savedgame file getting corrupted is it? :S

 

[Ham]

It may be an option somewhere thats gone wrong. Try fiddling with all the internal and external options you can. Max everything out, save the config, test, minimise everything, test etc.

Ive just installed it again. Time too prove a need an 8800 to run 1680x1050...

 

[Rastalovich]

Rast I'm sorry matey but this one you are not 100% correct!

You are correct about the further away the less quality. But this is extreme.

Look at the piccars you see the dotty landscape.. that is a graphical error.

I don't get it.

Basically it isn't meant to be there. When you get closer to the distorted terrain it appears properly.

I have seen this error in person and in some cases the water disappears all together.

I believe Oblivion was a really well written game. It is just that the Havok game engine is very hungry.

Rast, could you show me some prove of Oblivion showing the bad coding? Or silly errors?

Hennerz all I can say is it is drivers or OS.

It`s all a matter of POV really when it comes down to it.

Imo, the game requires far too much for what it is. And again imo, something as simple as WOW looks as good on a cheap and chearfull card as this does on something in the 7xxxx range. Proof is merely in the screenshots and the feel of the game when u play it.

I played Oblivion just as I finished with RFOnline, which to look its best is quite resource hungry - but it has it`s reasons (1000s of players with spells/weapons all over the place, with far more effects than the nice sword screenshot we see above), and frankly it wipes the floor with it estheticly.

Imo the content of the game has to save it from how it performs, which it probably does. Cept when I install a "new" game I don`t expect to be taken back a few years in techniques.

to my mates machine using his 8800GTS and these bad graphics are still occurring. When he plays his own saved game using distant land, his looks fine. It isnt something to do with my savedgame file getting corrupted is it? :S

For that to happen, I would expect that the options for u`r pc get transfered with the savedgame - which is a bizarre idea in itself.

Also this would suggest to me u`r options are set differently to u`r m8s.

Strange how that happens.

 

[FarFarAway]

First of all Oblivion WILL run on almost all modern cards, just not dinosaurs. Oblivion isn't an MMO like WoW and so I don't ee why a Ti440 should run it.

Oblivion looks STUNNING when on full, take it from me I know.

There's actually a nice mod that changes some of the distance rendering in Oblivion. It's easy to do, quick and looks lush, check it out.

 

[Rastalovich]

First of all Oblivion WILL run on almost all modern cards, just not dinosaurs. Oblivion isn't an MMO like WoW and so I don't ee why a Ti440 should run it.

Oblivion looks STUNNING when on full, take it from me I know.

There's actually a nice mod that changes some of the distance rendering in Oblivion. It's easy to do, quick and looks lush, check it out.

Meh, meh arguement isn`t that it `should` run on a Ti card, but that better written games do. Well actually I`m not sure about a Ti, but WOW looks pretty darn good on something as old as a 5500.

With respect tho kemp, u`r sporting a 8800 muts-nuts setup that`d make pong look kewl. But this game shouldn`t need it.

I bet on his same setup he can play FarCry really really well, or even GRAW.

 

[FarFarAway]

Aye but I had a 7900GTX and that played Oblivion and looked lush for sure In fact I've tried it on an X1600Pro and it still plays, just at a lower res.

Having seen WoW on lower settings it looks are nothing on Oblivion. Yes Oblivion is hungry for power, but then it's a newer and more impressive game.

The only engine that looks VERY impressive even on lower spec cards is Source imo

 

[Ham]

We've debated that long and hard the quality of the writing of the game before. So lets get onto that again.

*sigh* That idea failed.

 

[FarFarAway]

Some more screens to drool at

 

[Rastalovich]

Aye but I had a 7900GTX and that played Oblivion and looked lush for sure In fact I've tried it on an X1600Pro and it still plays, just at a lower res.

Having seen WoW on lower settings it looks are nothing on Oblivion. Yes Oblivion is hungry for power, but then it's a newer and more impressive game.

The only engine that looks VERY impressive even on lower spec cards is Source imo

EDIT: ya Ham`s correct - we`ve been here b4, imo the game sucks in the design/writing, u like it - simple as that I guess, democracy in action.

 

[Ham]

Those extra textures look fantastic but the link come up with a oopps forum message.

You reckon that theres a big difference in performance between the 640mb and 320mb GTS on this game kemp?