WYP
News Guru
Nvidia has now started a countdown to their GTX Gaming Celebration event, stating that it is almost TIme.
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Nvidia start a countdown to their GTX celebration event
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Tripp
too many shrooms
yeah all of this
How is AMD on fire in the GPU department? All i saw so far is a 1070 equivalent and nvidia's stock is soaring because they had free reign for 9 months and it looks like they won't have to do much more than adjust prices a little to stay competitive across the board.
AlienALX
Well-known member
That is exactly what went through my mind when I saw the thread title.
Dawelio
Active member
Pretty much cause their CPUs seem to be delievering some real competition in the CPU market. And there's no reason to not think nor doubt that their upcoming Vega GPUs might have some punch as well in competition towards Nvidia.
This is atleast what I think.
well on the benchmarks for that rx580 that was up earlier i think amd has gotten nvidia to jump the gun to early, think they are going to throw the 1080ti out against a polaris refresh and not vega, then vega is gonna go hiya ha and bang, what do nvidia have then.
So ye i cant wait to see what nvidia have to say.
So ye i cant wait to see what nvidia have to say.
AlienALX
Well-known member
haha yeah it could be a total decoy. Now THAT would be funny. Nvidia think they are screwing AMD as usual and AMD catch them out.
Well i thought the wording for the capsicon event was odd when amd said newly released gpu and cpu stuff, when vega is still trotting about with the big old engineering sample stuff on it, yet we have known about the 490 but now seems its jumped to 580 status.
They have free reign with uber ultra expensive GPU cards.9 of my 10 friends bought radeon 480
AlienALX
Well-known member
Good to know that common sense still exists. *thumbs up*
The CPU development and the GPU development are unrelated, why would this have any bearing on anything. Also nvidia hasn't been slacking over the past few years unlike Intel. Realistically speaking Vega will be a step above the 1080, maybe on par with the 1080ti, nothing which would ruin nvidia.
And still nvidia holds 70% marketshare, sure less than they used to a year ago, but their revenue still increased. Looking at ten of your friends isn't market research. Finding actual numbers on sales is hard, but from what i've seen the 1060 is doing about as well as the rx480 and the 1070 is a moneymaker for nvidia.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
They are related. Money relates everything. If Zen fails, AMD fails. And AMD relates to both. If one fails, they both fail.
In addition to the AMD on fire statement, they are. How you don't see that is beyond me, but they literally have the WHOLE industry watching them intensely. So intense, it's probably one of the biggest launches in the past 20 years, heck maybe ever. At the very least, in AMDs history. And on top of that, AMD are delivering. Constantly driving up hype. Actually meeting that hype level. Not screwing up with marketing. All while everyone knows they probably won't surpass Intels 10core CPU. But are OK with that because it finally helps everyone. So yes. They are on fire.
What is your point? Nvidia lost marketshare. AMD gained. Nvidia gained profit because of better margins. AMD gained revenue as well. The ENTIRE market gained revenue. The market grew. Both benefited.
You can also apply what you said.
" Looking at ten of your friends isn't market research."
"but from what i've seen"
To what you yourself said. Thats not research, that is opinion. When on the contrary, we have actualy FACTs from AMD and Polaris. It is selling so well they gained an entire 8% market share. From "lower end" cards. That is data. They are selling well. It's a money maker from them. Sure AMD still lost money overall, but compared to previous years, it wasn't much. But that's only because of operating profit rising and them spending money on new deals to prepare for the future.
I'm not bagging on you or anything. Don't take anything the wrongway. Just trying to explain everything. I know I am not the best writer and probably this post came off poorly, but I assure you, it wasn't meant to. I'm not very good translating words and thought to paper(or screen in this case)
Dawelio
Active member
Well NBD explained what I was trying to say in a very good way. I probably wouldn't have said it any better than that. Thanks NBD
In the future that may be true, for the next GPU release Zen means nothing. My post was strictly regarding the GPU section, they aren't doing poorly in any segment, they are doing quite well even, but saying that nvidia is desperate to get back into the spotlight because of Vega seems way over the top. Zen vs Intel in the consumer market is the big thing, Vega has nowhere near as much potential of upsetting the market. Whether they are meeting the hype level is debatable, i think in general pretty much every technology product is overhyped and AMD does like to 'leak' things which make people expect more than is reasonable. Their marketing practices i've criticized before as well, with the either somewhat cringy approach or just releasing benchmarks vs the competition instead of their own prior products in benchmarks which heavily favor them.
Whether they deliver on reasonable expectations or not i'll make my mind up on when i get real benchmarks for Zen (i am quite optimistic though), at the moment the only product they have i think is genuinely good is the 480, let's hope they stay on path. Until then the only thing on fire is their 290x (sorry can't help it).
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4xo5ip/amd_vs_nvidia_sales_numbers_one_outlet/
My numbers i got from there, certainly more reliable info than 'me and my friends'. The point of the whole thing was that nvidia isn't losing out as bad as he made it look in the midrange market and is cashing in big time in the high end market. The 480 sales are better in the US, that's where the marketshare comes from i presume, but that's not a global thing. None of this was about putting down AMD or claiming they aren't doing well, they just aren't dominating in all fields.
You know i don't take offence by anything posted here, especially not by you. As long as the discussion stays on topic and it's not all ad hominem arguments i'm good, a bit of heat is expected.
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also this http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
1060 3.37%, 480 0.77%.
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Doomslayer
New member
Nvidia is really like a god company they have done things that people have complain about and they haven't really lost any market share.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
It's just a cut down Titan XP or Titan XP that didn't quite make the grade rebadged as something else, Not interesting.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
That would be epic beyond compare, but sadly highly unlikely. Imagine AMD thinks they only have the 1080 and 1080ti to compete with and BAM! Nvidia release a Titan XP beating 1180ti that's using HBM2 on a Volta core. I'd say Nvidia have the money and balls for it, but I don't think it would make sense economically. What is likely is a Titan XP with extra muscle trimmed off and a boost in energy in the way of a clock increase from AIB partners. We already know so I'm not just preaching to the choir, but if iit comes in at $650, that's incredibly exciting and would make me want to question whether I should move to Nvidia again. If it comes in at $800 like it is rumoured, that's boring, at least to me. Even if I had that kind of money to drop on a graphics card I wouldn't be that enthused. It's just not an exciting product to me.
