Nvidia Pushes Back GTX 275 Release
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Rastalovich
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I really hope we don't see any comparisons between the 4890 & 275, they are quite the differing target markets. In all honesty, if the 275 never comes out, I wouldn't be surprized, or just get's an oem ticket.
In answer to the final question, I'd seriously doubt it. I'm starting to think they really wouldn't care.
In answer to the final question, I'd seriously doubt it. I'm starting to think they really wouldn't care.
OmegaStalker
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I really hope Nvidia get an AssWooping sometime soon and then they acctually come back with some consumer intelligence and understand to stop taking us for a ride.... If you look at Nvidia's profit margins you can see the trend that they are starting to dwiddle at the moment simply because the Recession is eroding their consumers and shifting them to ATI...
Rastalovich
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From memory, AMD lost $1.25 billion at the end of 08 whereas nvidia lost $0.25bn.
Until I see Q109, think they got a fair way to go.
Until I see Q109, think they got a fair way to go.
OmegaStalker
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name='Rastalovich' said:
Aye your right "AMD" made a lose of $1.25Bn where as the ATI branch made a tidy profit of around $10Million(better then an $250million lose made my Nvidia)...
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name='OmegaStalker' said:
.. to take ATI out of the AMD equation, u need to associate the "ATI impairment of goodwill and acquired intangible assets ($684m)".
Written off assets taken as a result of aquisition. $10m makes a nice dent in that
OmegaStalker
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name='Rastalovich' said:.. to take ATI out of the AMD equation, u need to associate the "ATI impairment of goodwill and acquired intangible assets ($684m)".
Written off assets taken as a result of aquisition. $10m makes a nice dent in that
ATI was bought out years ago by AMD so that shows that over the next few years after their management was sorted out they acctually starting making profit over the years which meant they are still a viable business because last time i checked Nvidia goes into Minor Internal Adminstration nearly every two years and they never improve
Maybe they hired the ones that made ATI a loss... What you need to see is that if Nvidia was as viable as ATI then they wouldnt make constant loses they would have still made profits on their simple cost of sales to their sales ratio but they dont...
Rastalovich
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name='OmegaStalker' said:ATI was bought out years ago by AMD so that shows that over the next few years after their management was sorted out they acctually starting making profit over the years which meant they are still a viable business because last time i checked Nvidia goes into Minor Internal Adminstration nearly every two years and they never improve
As it stands, ATI is no longer a commodity in that sense. It is AMD, in so much as ATI is not a represented financial institution bound by the same financial reporting and operating. Since it's enveloping by AMDi, AMD are the company whereas ATI is relatively a brand of that company.
It has been recommended recently that AMD consider cutting ATI lose once more to seperate it's burden from the company as a whole, whilst it's push forward with the Foundry would be more beneficial.
I can't see this happening as AMD have been quite clever in issuing it's $684m write-off of assets of ATI's burden during a particularly poor financial period for every1. As they're written off, the next set of financial publishings they won't need to be taken into consideration. And explaining the losses to the credit people can be partially shadowed by "the current world financial crisis".
Have absolutely no idea where the nvidia administration reports come from, nor can I find any official releases. Back as far as 02/03 the company were generating in excess of $1bn a year. Can ofc see lots of Inquirer-esq non-official-rumor mongering anti-nvidia false reports, understanding ofc that these aren't news sources, but wimpers from some1 with a chip after being shunned by the company many moons ago.
Whilst nvidia continue to take less of a loss (or more of a negative profit) than the AMD company, currently, and control more of a market representation despite their obvious disregard for their 'competitors' pricing structure, I don't see AMD being more viable ? ATI as a single concern were taken over with agreement of debts to be covered, which is bearing fruit in those previous financial statements. AMD's growth in Q109 is 'to be seen' and I expect it to be more favorable than Q408 as a result, but by no means an argument for viability.
Having said that, if AMD continue to cut those ATI burdens and sell the company on, ATI would be more viable as it's debts would have been covered. Problem with that being that AMD would want that much more of a price for the concern to reflect the losses it has covered.
name='Lynx' said:Too many long words...
but really nvidia making a loss?? now that comes as a surprise to me.. then again they are releasing to many different models..
name='Rastalovich' said:
From the reports I've seen (freely google-able on the interweb) the only major graphics player to make a profit as a company as a whole were Intel.
nVidia's current models will be 245/265*/275/285/295, 2 of which I'm not sure will be released. Older models are older models, u can still buy an ATI 2350 (I did for £6).
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