WYP
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Nvidia dominates the GPU market with 90% GPU market share.
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Nvidia destroys the competition and achieves the highest GPU market share of its history
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NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
If somebody would put forth a competent competitor to anything they offer people wouldn't buy it.
As it is Nvidia beats everybody on hardware and software and that's just the consumer space.
As it is Nvidia beats everybody on hardware and software and that's just the consumer space.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
I think it's sadly true that anything Nvidia's competitors can do, Nvidia can match or beat. When they do, most people will just choose Nvidia.
Deadtroopers
Member
90% of folk are just wrong.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
I think 10% are just in denial personally.
I mean it's okay for it to be that way. AMD gave up on GPUs a long time ago and Intel just started. AMD makes money off Zen. It makes sense.
Competition is good but there's just none. They'll eventually fix it. Nvidia will screw up at some point.
I mean it's okay for it to be that way. AMD gave up on GPUs a long time ago and Intel just started. AMD makes money off Zen. It makes sense.
Competition is good but there's just none. They'll eventually fix it. Nvidia will screw up at some point.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Problem is AMD, If/when they re-enter the high end, Will just price their stuff a little bit below Nvidia's equivalent which is a strategy that hasn't been working. They either need to meet or exceed while having sane pricing and I don't think AMD are up to it.
As for Intel, I can't see them entering the high end, Maybe upper mid range but not 4090 tier.
Unless something drastic happens then Nvidia will keep gaining marketshare and prices will keep going up.
ImprovizoR
Active member
Nvidia doesn't have competition. That's why they can price their products so absurdly.
Deadtroopers
Member
Ngreedia add nothing worth the price premium. It is folk being daft and seeing a value that simply isn't there that keep prices up. I've my doubts Intel will still be doing discrete graphics this time next year; but if they are, I see no reason for them not to be doing high-end when they've established a good product.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
AMD don't need to compete at the high end. If they stayed where they are but offered superior or extremely competent software support/features they would gain market share. As long as they can get them all into games.
Like it or not gamers like the software Nvidia offer. Developers aim to offer those features. AMD is always an afterthought for everyone.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Yeah, I do think AMD have a chance in the midrange space. I have personally no interest in them competing in the high-end because I just don't see it being profitable for them enough. If they can do the UDNA thing where their Instinct-type GPUs can be 'retrofitted' to the high-end gaming market competitively, then cool, why not. But I'd rather they focused their attention on the low and midrange so that they can gain market share and mindshare with consumers.
ImprovizoR
Active member
They had a chance. But Intel seems to have derailed some of their plans by releasing a good, cheap GPU first. Now AMD has to surpass Intel at a competitive price point. Which they probably won't do because they seem to be completely and utterly delusional about their position in the GPU market.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
I could be wrong, but I don't think AMD had plans to compete with a $250 GPU with new graphics cards at this time. RNDA4 seems to be focused on the midrange, not the low-end. The Navi 48 die seemingly is rumoured to be a replacement for the 7900 stuff—so high-end becoming midrange.
The Navi 44 die that might come later (I imagine the bigger die will cost first) may be priced around $300-400 and will likely outperform the B580 by a significant margin. If that die performs on par with a 7800XT for, say, $300-350, the B580 will struggle. $50-100 more and you'll get around 30-40% more performance. Even $400 would still be competitive. And AMD can always release a cutdown version at $250-275 and outperform the B580.
So I don't think that derails their plans. I think it's what AMD should have been planning from the beginning.
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