Nvidia confirms that their next-gen GPUs will be manufactured by Samsung

[WYP]

Next-Gen RTX will be 7nm with EUV.



Read more about Nvidia's plans to utilise Samsung's 7nm technology for their next-generation GPUs.

 

[Avet]

This is nice. Exciting stuff continues.

 

[g0ggles1994]

Expect another 10% - 20% price hike from this gen

 

[demonking]

With Nvidia's 12nm RTX Super series of graphics cards launching today, it seems clear that Nvidia has no plans to release a consumer-grade 7nm graphics card before 2020, as otherwise, their RTX Super lineup would have a shelf life of less than six months.

So slightly less than the original 20 series.

Expect another 10% - 20% price hike from this gen

at least, and then some sort of re-release with better performance with a price slash to counter 7nm+ and whatever intel has out/due

 

[grec]

Nah come on guys, the last die shrink brought us the 1000 series cards which were good value, there wasn't any competition from AMD in the high-end then either lets not forget, you could say AMD were in a worse position then at the high end than now. The 2000 series cards were not just no-die shrink, but a massive die-size increase too, they were intrinsically not good value technologically but we couldn't have had anything new better at the time, it would just have been nothing at all if AMD were in competition for Turing's consumer launch.

Although here in the UK we've got all the early signs of a recession about to start so maybe not for us but oh well.

 

[Dicehunter]

Expect another 10% - 20% price hike from this gen

On the next "xx80Ti" it'll likely be the same £1200 price tag even if yields are better, Nvidia have now set the xx80 Ti price tag 60% higher than last gen and I highly doubt they'll lower it.

 

[grec]

Personally I think they'd love to but they won't actually be able to make a die big enough to be in the same class as TU102 on 7nm yet, so they'll release something cheaper and slightly faster with a ~TU104/GP100(RTX2080/Quadro) sized die and claim it's a pro-consumer move, that's assuming the 3000 Series comes in the first half of 2020 anyway. Turing's giant TU102 die was only possible that cheap because 14nm was already fairly mature at its launch, previously that class of die has been relegated to £3000+ cards like Quadro's or the Titan V.

RTX2080Ti was a server chip in consumer/gaming dressing, NVidia has never actually done that with this class of chip and gaming centric focus before but no doubt they'd love to.

 

[ImprovizoR]

Expect another 10% - 20% price hike from this gen

If people keep buying at those prices, Nvidia will keep increasing them.


I really don't get it. It's like people won't forgive AMD any type of mistake or blunder. But Nvidia gets away with literal crime. They commit fraud like it's nobody's business, their practices are disgustingly dishonest and anti-consumer, yet people don't seem to care enough to remember those instances for longer than a week. I wonder how many times will Nvidia have to screw over their own customers for them to get a freakin' hint and stop buying their products.

 

[grec]

We can all agree NVidia make anti-consumer moves and over price some of their products without ignoring the fact this is the cheapest we've ever seen a 750mm^2+ class chip in any area of micrprocessors ever so far and a far larger and more expensive to produce chip than any previous X80Ti.

There's so many legitimate things to criticise about NVidia, why choose one of the few things that's technologically justifiable? It just harms the cause.

 

[looz]

Didn't you know that bad companies can only do bad things and good companies can only do good things?

 

[demonking]

We can all agree NVidia make anti-consumer moves and over price some of their products without ignoring the fact this is the cheapest we've ever seen a 750mm^2+ class chip in any area of micrprocessors ever so far and a far larger and more expensive to produce chip than any previous X80Ti.

There's so many legitimate things to criticise about NVidia, why choose one of the few things that's technologically justifiable? It just harms the cause.

I think that whatever way we try and look at it they would have milked it. Had they moved onto a smaller node they would not have needed such a large die, we would have picked up the cost of moving to a new node and redesign had they done this.
The reasoning behind all of this is almost identical to the reason Intel milk us on price. 1 they hold market dominance, 2 even the combined business of all consumer class gpu's is a small portion of their business where as AMD's business has a much large volume of consumer products. 3 as with all businesses this size they are run by accountants and solicitors. We might have an engineer as the face but that's it, after that is all numbers and law.

This is capitalism in its pure form. nothing we can do. stick along for the ride until it implodes on itself, as capitalism will eventually.

 

[grec]

I don't disagree but at the same time we have to remember Moore's law is also slowing and we're hitting the "accelerator wall" with GPUs. No amount of competition can get past physical constraints. Until we can create MCM-based GPUs then steps forward won't be easy or as big as people are used to, it'll become like CPUs was like for a while. MCMs are our only mid-term solution to keeping Moores law truly alive, but EUV will at least be a solid step forward in the short term. Long term, we have to abandon silicon and possibly even semiconductor logic in areas, but we're talking a decade or more there.