Nvidia adds Telemetry to their GPU drivers

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Nvidia has added a telemetry component to their GPU drivers, without any explanation on how it is used, leaving privacy conscious gamers concerned.



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This article was possible thanks to information provided by King of Old School on the OC3D Forums.
 
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Didn't know about this, hence why I love OC3D's news :) ... Got a bit wondering why I needed to make an account for Experience? :huh:...
 
Other coverage of this is desperately sensationalised.

GeForce Experience was always leading this way, and it's nothing identifiable, it's just usage and stuff. People want better drivers? Then allow some telemetry, no-one is spying on you they're just trying to get a better look at how things are behaving. Sometimes trusting user reports doesn't work, and you need raw data. That's all this is.

Calm down people!
 
SuB said:
Other coverage of this is desperately sensationalised.

GeForce Experience was always leading this way, and it's nothing identifiable, it's just usage and stuff. People want better drivers? Then allow some telemetry, no-one is spying on you they're just trying to get a better look at how things are behaving. Sometimes trusting user reports doesn't work, and you need raw data. That's all this is.

Calm down people!
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"But we want a better experience, can't you do that without gathering any data on how we use your product, maybe try consulting a psychic instead of robbing me of my privacy ?!"
 
SuB said:
Other coverage of this is desperately sensationalised.

GeForce Experience was always leading this way, and it's nothing identifiable, it's just usage and stuff. People want better drivers? Then allow some telemetry, no-one is spying on you they're just trying to get a better look at how things are behaving. Sometimes trusting user reports doesn't work, and you need raw data. That's all this is.

Calm down people!
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Indeed, I understand why some people are concerned, but there really isn't anything to worry about here.

It would have been nice if Nvidia had released some more information on this when they implemented it, as this kinda stuff is often over sensationalised by the usual souces.
 
Any privacy concerns could be eased with a simple 'opt-in' or 'opt-out' checkbox while installing the drivers. Prompt the user with a small disclaimer each time the driver is installed/updated and everyone goes home happy.
If we knew it was strictly related to system hardware configuration, performance during gaming along with glitches/crashes and maybe even a 'submit for review' with software crashes, that would go a long way.
 
SuB said:
Other coverage of this is desperately sensationalized.

GeForce Experience was always leading this way, and it's nothing identifiable, it's just usage and stuff. People want better drivers? Then allow some telemetry, no-one is spying on you they're just trying to get a better look at how things are behaving. Sometimes trusting user reports doesn't work, and you need raw data. That's all this is.

Calm down people!
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But but SuB ! We need to make drama and stuff !!!! ^_^

In all seriousness I don't care as long as it's just usage, Settings used etc...
 
My concern is that NVIDIA are telling two different stories. On their website they clearly state that they do not share user level data with third parties. However in the EULA/TOS for GFE 3, it says they will share user level data, including your name, your email address, in fact ALL data they collect from you, with whomever they please.

Fine, collect crash data, but don't lie about it. Don't tell me you're doing one thing when you are, in fact, doing the exact opposite. There's also the small matter that the outgoing data is encoded, and that NVIDIA do not explicitly ask users for their consent, which under EU law they absolutely have to.

Claiming the whole thing is sensationalist is ignorant, and claiming that anyone with concerns is somehow in the wrong is arrogant and ignorant.
 
On another note, they been able to create better drivers for decades without this nonsense of having to sign in and be online all the time, just another account on top of all the other accounts, what they do with data collection is like, well doesn't really matter, its the notion of having to be online to even access basic functions of your video card, and yes i know there's 3rd party software to do that, but give me a break, there is absolutely NO sane reason why you have to be signed in to do that!

Point is, its been fine before, why make it so obnoxious and silly?
 
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On another note, they been able to create better drivers for decades without this nonsense of having to sign in and be online all the time, just another account on top of all the other accounts, what they do with data collection is like, well doesn't really matter, its the notion of having to be online to even access basic functions of your video card, and yes i know there's 3rd party software to do that, but give me a break, there is absolutely NO sane reason why you have to be signed in to do that!

Point is, its been fine before, why make it so obnoxious and silly?
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Who said anything about access to basic functions of your GPU?

Don't install Geforce experience, the ADD ON tool made to MAKE DRIVER INSTALLATION AND IN-GAME SETTINGS EXPERIENCE EASIER it is *not* a requirement to install the software...It looks like the sign up stuff is only with GFE right? So just don't install it....
 
SuB said:
Who said anything about access to basic functions of your GPU?

Don't install Geforce experience, the ADD ON tool made to MAKE DRIVER INSTALLATION AND IN-GAME SETTINGS EXPERIENCE EASIER it is *not* a requirement to install the software...It looks like the sign up stuff is only with GFE right? So just don't install it....
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Basic function, Eh turning off stupid bright led that is on my card, accessing shadowplay and setting it up, why do i need a silly gathering account for that? if they would move those options to nvidia's control panel, then yeah i'd be happy to NEVER install that new geforce experience, it's also made my pc blue screen and games crash so im already on the fence of that thing, and them tracking my stuff for the excuse of making better drivers, nah mate, its not cool.

That said im kind of baffled most people here just glide with it and thinks its not a big deal, it kinda is but maybe im just the paranoid one here.

On a side note, yeh i still use geforce experience 2.4, i just keep deleting the update folder whenever it asks to update, and then run it again to have the stuff i want to me available, it takes a while to download that update again so it will just run normally untill i need to change a setting.
 
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SuB said:
Other coverage of this is desperately sensationalised.

GeForce Experience was always leading this way, and it's nothing identifiable, it's just usage and stuff. People want better drivers? Then allow some telemetry, no-one is spying on you they're just trying to get a better look at how things are behaving. Sometimes trusting user reports doesn't work, and you need raw data. That's all this is.

Calm down people!
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Same thing with MS. But people don't listen. They speak before thinking and don't bother researching it. Sad but true
 
Dont get why nVdia didnt issue any warning prior to implementation. Then again, maybe they thought they still dont need to inform customers of things they invent and implement.
 
No, IMO there is a big difference with this compare to Microsoft with Windows 10 you have to live with it 24/7 with this it's more of a optional update from what i have read it's added more to GFE than the nvidia drivers, You don't have to use the Official nvidia drivers you can use tweaked drivers.

So basically for me it's a big difference.
 
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