New PC - Duartico

[Duartico]

I am making a new build part list. Here is what I have got until now: (This is a build for 1080p)

AMD FX-8350 (Will be very much overclocked)
Scythe Mugen 4
Crucial 8Gb (2 Sticks) DDR3-1600
WD Caviar Blue 1TB (7200RPM)

 

[Feronix]

What's your budget for the entire system mate, and what do you plan to do with it, just gaming/browsing?

• What is your budget?
• Will you need a monitor, keyboard, and/or mouse included in that budget?
• Shall you be requiring an OS?
• What will you be using this rig for?
• Will you be overclocking?
• Do you need a full build or will you be reusing some old parts?

 

[Duartico]

-I live in Portugal (Similar prices to Spain, use Amazon.es or KuantoCusta as a guide to my prices);
-I am trying to keep it low, but i can go a small bit over 500 €; I already have a monitor, which is a 3D FullHD TV;
-I can borrow the OS disk from a family member;
-I already have a monitor, which is a 3D FullHD TV, but i would like to have a disk drive (Not Bluray) keyboard, mouse, headphones and a small microphone, if possible, included in the headphones;
-Gaming, internet surfing, video and movie watching;
-1080p;
-Yes, I will overclock my AMD FX-8350 to get more power out of it;
-I need a full build.

 

[Feronix]

I'm going to be honest mate, that's impossible. You can't buy a €500 PC including peripherals with an 8350 in it and a decent videocard for gaming. I just tried to search some components together, with an 8320E, MSI 970 Gaming motherboard, 1TB HDD, 120GB SSD, 8GB RAM, Mugen 4 and 600 Watt power supply it costs €475, and that's without a case or GPU.

Depending on the games you play, you might not need a very beefy GPU, but anything under €100 is 100% not worth it unless you want to buy used components. With your budget I'm afraid you're going to have to move down to an Athlon 860k build on the FM2+ platform.

I'd happily search some components together for you for a build tailored to your budget, but I can imagine you'd be a little disappointed at the spec list. What you want cannot be achieved though, or at least not without sacrificing the SSD, getting a crap motherboard, PSU and using the stock CPU cooler for a while first. That's only going to get more expensive in the long run when it all needs replacing.

Also, little bit of advice on the rest of the components you were eyeing up:
- Get 2x4GB RAM sticks. You can still add 2 more sticks in most motherboards, and they will run in dual channel channel mode which is better.
- Don't get a Seagate drive imo Pick a WD Caviar Blue. It might be ever so slightly more expensive but it's well worth it reliability-wise.

 

[Duartico]

Well then, what if i raised my budget to 600 and something €? Would that PC be more balanced? And not so crappy in spec terms. Also, remove the peripheal money from the main budget since, i can get the money for those from other parts of my family, making the budget look smaller to them. Also don't go with a very painted or fancy case, i just need something simple and that lasts a good while.

 

[Feronix]

Well then, what if i raised my budget to 600 and something €? Would that PC be more balanced? And not so crappy in spec terms. Also, remove the peripheal money from the main budget since, i can get the money for those from other parts of my family, making the budget look smaller to them.

That could be better, but it's still going to be an 8320E and if I were you I'd then not get an SSD for a bit and get a better GPU now, then save up for an SSD later

I'd happily get you a spec list if all that's okay with you!

 

[Duartico]

That could be better, but it's still going to be an 8320E and if I were you I'd then not get an SSD for a bit and get a better GPU now, then save up for an SSD later

I'd happily get you a spec list if all that's okay with you!

Well then, let the the Spec List flow out of you. I've never used a SSD in ym life, and I can live without it for a bit more. Also, the 8340E only costs less 30 more euros than the 8350. I can live witht that extra money, so, unless theres another reason, go with the 8350.

 

[barnsley]

Its not great but I tried.
CPU: AMD Athlon X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (€91.43 @ Amazon Espana)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 300 55.5 CFM CPU Cooler (€24.99 @ Amazon Espana)
Motherboard: Asus A68HM-Plus Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard (€64.00 @ Amazon Espana)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€45.30 @ Amazon Espana)
Storage: Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€53.90 @ Amazon Espana)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 270X 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card (€190.83 @ Amazon Espana)
Case: Zalman ZM-T4 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (€28.20 @ Amazon Espana)
Power Supply: be quiet! 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€72.36 @ Amazon Espana)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (€20.38 @ Amazon Espana)
Total: €591.39

 

[Duartico]

Your spec list is here, now, lets see what Feronix is going to come up with.

 

[Feronix]

Yeah either what Barnsley suggested or this. There isn't really an in-between that I can think of. (Can run the stock cooler while saving up for the Mugen 4 if you really don't want to go over that €600 mark).

 

[joca94]

Note: i havent added optical drive here in a list, since u can get one where ever you want for low price.

Fx-8350(Hyper evo 212 cooler)
Gigabyte 990-fxa-ud3 (blue one, should be rev 2.0, though you can get other if it isnt avaipable in ur country, like msi's, but if you want to overclock, it must be 990 one, 970 is too weak to overclock fx-8350)
R9 270x or r9 280x
2x4GB Patriot Viper 1866MHz
1TB Seagatte Barracuda(idk whats the hype, this HDD is quite good, has 5/5 or so star rating in my country, with best reviews)
Coolermaster elite 430(quite good case, also has a lot of space for optical drive, if im correct, it should have 3 slots for optical drives, has nice air circulation also, and many drawers for extra HDD or SSD)
Whole build should be arround 500-600 euros, idk prices in portugal so i cant say exact price. Also, look for 500W+ power supply, with atleast 80+ Bronze, like Corsair one, or tell me which ones are available and il pick one for you

 

[Duartico]

Also, is it likely that I'll have to update my motherboard BIOS for the CPU to work?

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Also, would this build go above a PS4 in performance? If not I am quite probably doomed to fail.
Also is his observation "the 970 is too weak to overclock" true at all?
Also, would a 4 core unlocked intel processor be cheaper and better than the AMD cpu and MOBO?

 

[joca94]

Also, is it likely that I'll have to update my motherboard BIOS for the CPU to work?

Posts merged - Please do not post multiple times in a row

Also, would this build go above a PS4 in performance? If not I am quite probably doomed to fail.
Also is his observation "the 970 is too weak to overclock" true at all?

Its good to oc fx-4000 or 6000 series, but i wouldnt use it to oc 8000 series, if you want to heavily overclock as you said. If not, you can go with 970, though price is quite close, like 10-40 euros of im noy mostaking, srry for any gramatical mistakes, im sick, with high temp, and only got a phone
I see u edited ur post, which 4 core unlocked intel CPU you had in mind? btw intel is more expensive way to go, not cheaper, u can get i5-4690k for 215 euros, should be a bit cheaper in portugal though, thats an example over a cheaper fx procesor. My suggestion is that you be a bit more patient and save about 100-200 euros more and then get a PC, that way, your pick list wont be so much limited.