New gaming rig - (SSD caching question)

[FullMetalMonket]

Hi all, I'm new to these forums but have watched TimeToLiveCustoms videos on the Tube that is You for a while.

Anyway, to the point. I'm building a new rig (the parts come tomorrow) but I have a question about one aspect of m build. I'll post the spec first so you all know what I'm working with:

OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit

Case: Corsair 800D Obsidian

Motherboard: Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z (Z68 Chipset)

CPU: Intel i7 2600K 3.4Ghz (Will be overclocking to 4.6Ghz)

GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 Core Edition Classified (Will be overclocking)

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR3 1600Mhz Dual Channel (4x4)

CPU Cooler: Corsair H80

SSD 1: Corsair 120GB Force Series 3 (for OS)

HDD 1: WD 2TB Caviar Green

HDD 2: WD 1TB Caviar Green (recycled from older machine)

HDD 3: WD 1TB Caviar Green (recycled from older machine)

Optical Drive: Blu-Ray ReWriter (Recycled from older machine - Can't remember manufacturer)

PSU: Corsair Gold AX750

Anyway, on to the question at hand.

Am I going to be getting compatibility issues with using the OCZ Synapse Cache drive when I have an SSD as my primary drive and will probably be using the included Dataplex software or will the cache drive also benefit the SSD also? If so can someone give me a heads up on how to configure it all? Last time I built a machine SSDs werent around.

On a side note (and I think I know the answer already) do you think my PSU will be able to handle a second GTX560 Ti 448? I'm started to regret not buying a larger capacity PSU like the AX1200. I'm terrible at working out voltages etc.

Thanks in advance.

 

[alicarve]

according to nvidia the ax750 should be powerful enough to run them in sli.

I am not sure about the ssd caching though as i have been wondering this myself

 

[FullMetalMonket]

according to nvidia the ax750 should be powerful enough to run them in sli.

I am not sure about the ssd caching though as i have been wondering this myself

Thanks for the info about the the PSU situation.

I came across this website: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine which, although, does not have the 448 core card on there I was selecting the GTX570 as the 448 core is closer in architecture to it than a 560 Ti, why Nvidia didn't just call it the GTX 565 is beyond me!?

Im not 100% sure I got my setup exactly but I changed some of the parts like the HDD types and SSD types etc and it comes up between 660w to 694w which is good as it comes under the 744w limit but would mean SLI GTX560 Ti 448 Core would stress the PSU as its running at around 75-85% power if im correct? Plus I dont know if that's under max load either

How much would wattage increase under load?

 

[S_I_N]

go for the AX850 mate give yourself some room to load it up. you'll be running the AX750 at 85-90% and she'll be screaming at you with the fan running at 100% all the time.

as far as the OCZ 64GB Synapse Cache goes after a little research I think it'll be a waste on ur setup as ur already running a 120GB ssd for opsys and have 4Tb of extra storage. you can easily run most apps from ur main ssd and other apps from the hdd's the caching benifits if the OCZ 64GB Synapse Cache are designed for the main drive you may even hinder its performance by caching it to a slightly slower drive 550r 515w for the Corsair and 550r 490w for the ocz. The OCZ synapse is more geared to run with a hdd.

now about that case lol you know you have whats considered a hotbox for a case right?? That case is best considered for water cooling. Air management is not great for it.

 

[FullMetalMonket]

go for the AX850 mate give yourself some room to load it up. you'll be running the AX750 at 85-90% and she'll be screaming at you with the fan running at 100% all the time.

as far as the OCZ 64GB Synapse Cache goes after a little research I think it'll be a waste on ur setup as ur already running a 120GB ssd for opsys and have 4Tb of extra storage. you can easily run most apps from ur main ssd and other apps from the hdd's the caching benifits if the OCZ 64GB Synapse Cache are designed for the main drive you may even hinder its performance by caching it to a slightly slower drive 550r 515w for the Corsair and 550r 490w for the ocz. The OCZ synapse is more geared to run with a hdd.

now about that case lol you know you have whats considered a hotbox for a case right?? That case is best considered for water cooling. Air management is not great for it.

Thanks for the reply.

I wasn't aware about the Airflow issues with the case, from reviews I read it was supposed to be quite good. If that tuns out to be the case (no pun intended) I'll just have to crack out the old office fan and blow it in through the door.

As for the caching, I don't plan on intending to use the Synapse for my Corsair SSD but for the HDDs or will it not actually make a difference? The 3 HDDs will fill up pretty fast as one of 1TBs will be used for FRAPS recordings, the 2TB drive for games (I have over 430 games on Steam, not that their all gonna be installed at once

) and backups of my films and the final 1TB drive for music and music production.

 

[S_I_N]

correct you will see no benefit from caching a back up drive most agree that running games and the likes from a backup even 5400rpm drive vs a ssd or faster hdd show no game improvement

 

[FullMetalMonket]

That's a real shame. I'll test it out anyway and if there is no effect like you say, I'll see about flogging it to one of my clan mates.

Edit

To my dismay I've just read this of the Synapse Cache product page

"Will Synapse be able to cache from both my existing SSD and HDD storage drives?

In order for the cache to work properly, you must set up your system to have all your data and applications on one primary hard drive or SSD. Synapse can only cache from one existing system boot drive at this time."

So like you say it will be detrimental to my SSDs performance. I wonder if there are any work arounds or plans in the future for Dataplex (the software used) to be able to cache other drives also.

 

[FullMetalMonket]

now about that case lol you know you have whats considered a hotbox for a case right?? That case is best considered for water cooling. Air management is not great for it.

Can you recommend any decent fans and a setup for the 800D? Baring in mind the rear of the case will be taken up by the H80 push/pull radiator. It's been so long since I last done a rig build I don't know who makes good fans etc nowadays.