The newest model in the MSI Gaming range is the GTX 1080. With the Twin Frozr 6 cooler we put it to the test.
MSI GTX1080 Gaming X Review
MSI GTX1080 Gaming X Review
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The newest model in the MSI Gaming range is the GTX 1080. With the Twin Frozr 6 cooler we put it to the test.
MSI GTX1080 Gaming X Review
RickPlaysWarr
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Nice Video Tom. I think I like this one better than the Strix which is a bit to long for my Caselabs X2M Case
BTW: On page three of the Review, I think the boilerplate for test rig needs to be changed to your current test rig.
Thanks again for another great review
--Rick--
BTW: On page three of the Review, I think the boilerplate for test rig needs to be changed to your current test rig.
Thanks again for another great review
--Rick--
mihapiha
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Hi Tom,
I bought myself the EVGA GTX 1080 Founders Edition because I installed a EK-waterblock and EK backplate on it. While the waterblock is working fantastically, with load temperatures of 41°C max and idle under 30°C, I find it impossible to get with my card and my system (4930k @ 4.5 GHz, DDR3-2333 MHz) anywhere near to the results you had in Unigine of either the Asus Strix or this MSI Gaming. Unfortunately I lack some of the other software to compare more results.
I'm a bit surprised, because I focused on the overclocking and got my card to 2125 MHz stable, and 1338 MHz on the memory.
While the 2125 MHz is the max stable clock, my card is still over the 2000 MHz mark as most games confirm. Unfortunately it seems to be a bit under the 2000 MHz mark in Unigine Valley 1.0 most of the time. However, this is still beyond the frequencies of the Strix and the MSI Gaming.
I managed to get on 4k 62.1 FPS (no AA) and 32.9 FPS (x8 MSAA) average, which is substantially slower than the 71 FPS that the Strix and MSI Gaming produced. This puts the Strix and the MSI Gaming ahead of my setup by 13 and 6% respectively. I find it hard to imagine that the CPU or something else is causing this, especially at 4k.
In 3DMark FireStrike Ultra, my water cooled card is performing like it should and is slightly ahead of the Strix and the MSI Gaming, but I can't figure out why in Unigine Valley it underperforms this much...
Any ideas?
The review is brilliant as always
I bought myself the EVGA GTX 1080 Founders Edition because I installed a EK-waterblock and EK backplate on it. While the waterblock is working fantastically, with load temperatures of 41°C max and idle under 30°C, I find it impossible to get with my card and my system (4930k @ 4.5 GHz, DDR3-2333 MHz) anywhere near to the results you had in Unigine of either the Asus Strix or this MSI Gaming. Unfortunately I lack some of the other software to compare more results.
I'm a bit surprised, because I focused on the overclocking and got my card to 2125 MHz stable, and 1338 MHz on the memory.
While the 2125 MHz is the max stable clock, my card is still over the 2000 MHz mark as most games confirm. Unfortunately it seems to be a bit under the 2000 MHz mark in Unigine Valley 1.0 most of the time. However, this is still beyond the frequencies of the Strix and the MSI Gaming.
I managed to get on 4k 62.1 FPS (no AA) and 32.9 FPS (x8 MSAA) average, which is substantially slower than the 71 FPS that the Strix and MSI Gaming produced. This puts the Strix and the MSI Gaming ahead of my setup by 13 and 6% respectively. I find it hard to imagine that the CPU or something else is causing this, especially at 4k.
In 3DMark FireStrike Ultra, my water cooled card is performing like it should and is slightly ahead of the Strix and the MSI Gaming, but I can't figure out why in Unigine Valley it underperforms this much...
Any ideas?
The review is brilliant as always
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Excalabur50
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Yet another top review, I just wish MSI would do a carbon edition with no red accents and a bit of led so it's tasteful instead of tacky
Doomslayer
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MSI aka tacky design
i don't even like the carbon that they have done to me that even looks tacky.
jimma47
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I like it but yeah damned if you do - damned if you don't on those RGB's and lighting!
I quite like it and it would look great in a black/red scheme. I think there may be an RGB version coming out - there was a gaming x and a gaming z I believe.
The Z version will have full RGB and lighting on the backplate as well. Could that be what the power header was for?
I quite like it and it would look great in a black/red scheme. I think there may be an RGB version coming out - there was a gaming x and a gaming z I believe.
The Z version will have full RGB and lighting on the backplate as well. Could that be what the power header was for?
Hi Tom,
I bought myself the EVGA GTX 1080 Founders Edition because I installed a EK-waterblock and EK backplate on it. While the waterblock is working fantastically, with load temperatures of 41°C max and idle under 30°C, I find it impossible to get with my card and my system (4930k @ 4.5 GHz, DDR3-2333 MHz) anywhere near to the results you had in Unigine of either the Asus Strix or this MSI Gaming. Unfortunately I lack some of the other software to compare more results.
I'm a bit surprised, because I focused on the overclocking and got my card to 2125 MHz stable, and 1338 MHz on the memory.
While the 2125 MHz is the max stable clock, my card is still over the 2000 MHz mark as most games confirm. Unfortunately it seems to be a bit under the 2000 MHz mark in Unigine Valley 1.0 most of the time. However, this is still beyond the frequencies of the Strix and the MSI Gaming.
I managed to get on 4k 62.1 FPS (no AA) and 32.9 FPS (x8 MSAA) average, which is substantially slower than the 71 FPS that the Strix and MSI Gaming produced. This puts the Strix and the MSI Gaming ahead of my setup by 13 and 6% respectively. I find it hard to imagine that the CPU or something else is causing this, especially at 4k.
In 3DMark FireStrike Ultra, my water cooled card is performing like it should and is slightly ahead of the Strix and the MSI Gaming, but I can't figure out why in Unigine Valley it underperforms this much...
Any ideas?
The review is brilliant as always
Different programs exhibit varaying types and amounts of load on the GPU.
Could be something else entirely though. Is the driver version the same?
mihapiha
New member
I do use a bit newer drivers. 368.25 for TTL vs. 368.39 for me.
mihapiha
New member
Good point. Didn't test that yet. So here are my results with the GPU stock:
Valley 4k no AA: 58.8 FPS average (55.6 FPS was TTL's result with a FE)
Valley 4k 8xMSAA: 31.5 FPS average (30.8 was TTL's result with a FE)
As weird as it may sound, the GTX1080 was actually a bit of a downgrade for me, because I used to have 3x 290Xs. In other words I spend 350 Euro (because I got 600 for my old cards) on a downgrade. So if CrossfireX was well supported I'm loosing about 30% in performance.
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/8751928/fs/8697266
But I did expect that. One card just tends to be better in games and this one has 8GB of VRAM which is kinda important on 4k. I do see 5.5 GB VRAM usage quite regularly...
I'm just surprised that the aftermarket seems to out-perform my FE by this much.
mihapiha
New member
yeah. It was more performance. But it was also a good time to get rid of them. I sill got a decent amount of money for them and after two and a half years their warranty expired too. With my MB (see signature) error-shooting if one failed would have been a nightmare. Plus, they were hot as hell. Even with 2x monsta 480 radiators (or 120.4) I couldn't properly cool these badboys. Now I see 41°C max with the EK-WB installed on the GTX1080 FE.
The reason to keep the 290Xs was because it looked so badass. Now I'm saving up money for a second GTX1080 down the line. But I must admit, that the performance of the GTX1080 is usually enough for 4k.
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ricksavoie
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Crossfire RX 480
After buying this, my thought this month would be... I could have had a V8! Then while drinking my V8, I could have had Crossfire RX 480's. So sad I bought a GTX 970
After buying this, my thought this month would be... I could have had a V8! Then while drinking my V8, I could have had Crossfire RX 480's. So sad I bought a GTX 970
WYP
News Guru
You do provide a very interesting argument for your old 3x290X setup. How did you find the scaling? I have never tried Tri or quad SLI or CF myself.
I bet your power usage has taken a considerable drop though. 3 290X gpus must take a lot of electricity.
eXile6
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Not sure which card to go for as I want it with a EKWB and EK has just confirmed they are doing the G1 gaming, Strix, MSI X and a few EVGA cards but the wait times are so long for the evga ones...
Is it worth spending money on the strix for the better internal components even though I will be ditching the cooler and backplate?
Or should I just get like an MSI Aero for £60-80 less and block that instead.
Is it worth spending money on the strix for the better internal components even though I will be ditching the cooler and backplate?
Or should I just get like an MSI Aero for £60-80 less and block that instead.
mihapiha
New member
indeed. My Corsair 1200i is falling asleep now... The scaling was very good. I was impressed with the progress AMD has made, and if it wasn't a crappy programmed nVidia game (i.e. Batman Arkham Knight) my Trifire system was absolutely amazing
I can answer that.
After all the benchmarks I did, and the reviews and tests I read, I cannot see any difference between my EVGA GTX1080 FE and any other GTX1080. They seem to all be able to crack 2000 MHz on the core, and a select few will do 2100 MHz. Mine will peak at 2088 MHz, which is the silicon lottery.
A friend got the Gigabyte which maybe TTL will review down the line, and he can get it to 2044 MHz max. Unless the EVGA Classified has something special so you can push voltages beyond 1093 mV, I don't see any difference between any of the cards in terms of performance. It's a silicon lottery and as soon as you put an EK-WaterBlock on them like I did, it essentially doesn't really change the card.
Maybe future drivers or cards (i.e. EVGA Classified) may change that, but essentially it seems all 1080s peak at roughly the same frequencies...
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shambles1980
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evga sometimes throw on extra power phases on to the cards. but all that really does is deliver a more stable voltage. i doubt the oc ability of these cards is anything to do with voltage delivery though, and id imagine its all about the cores.. but a 300mhz Overclock is pretty good id imagine. Or atleast about the avarage you would expect people to achive on nvidia cards without going mental.
