Mid-range 65nm 8800 due November

[Mr. Smith]

65nm die shrink, 256-bit memory interface, PCIE 2.0 = 8800GT.

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[darkorb]

pci-e 2.0?

alot better than normal?

 

[Toxcity]

pci-e 2.0?

alot better than normal?

More bandwidth I think..

 

[Yeungster]

Does this mean we'll need new mobo's to benefit too?

 

[Toxcity]

Does this mean we'll need new mobo's to benefit too?

Yep!

Which in a way sucks.. but hey!

 

[darkorb]

so im happy i bought this now, no need for a new mobo and still mad performance

 

[Nagaru]

PCI Express 2.0 will be backwards compatible, and the extra bandwidth is unnecessary . AGP 8x would probably only provide a small performance hit even with the latest cards.

 

[Mr. Smith]

PCI Express 2.0 will be backwards compatible, and the extra bandwidth is unnecessary . AGP 8x would probably only provide a small performance hit even with the latest cards.

True that - I remember reading the move from AGP to pci-e gave 1-2% performance increase...

Maybe dx10 will use the added b/w of pci-e 2.0

 

[Nagaru]

True that - I remember reading the move from AGP to pci-e gave 1-2% performance increase...

Maybe dx10 will use the added b/w of pci-e 2.0

I doubt it really, considering that many mother boards use 16x and 4x for SLI or Crossfire. I think it is just to keep the technology progressing.

 

[Elven]

Correct me if I am wrong now, but we barely touch the bandwith speed of AGP and we moved to PCI-E now to upgrade that surely is just a clause to force people to upgrade their motherboards?

 

[Toxcity]

Correct me if I am wrong now, but we barely touch the bandwith speed of AGP and we moved to PCI-E now to upgrade that surely is just a clause to force people to upgrade their motherboards?

lol, we have had this convo before on OC3D.

There is nobody forcing anyone to upgrade.. its us, always having to have the best of the best.

 

[PP Mguire]

I still find it funny how the n00bs say that PCI-E is so much better than AGP. The only reason people even upgrade is because 1) newer processors and RAM have the PCI-E slot, and 2) becasue of SLI. But its already been proven you can SLI AGP though.

 

[Elven]

So really PCI-E is the mobo makers way of forcing users to upgrade if you want the newer parts.

Basically we could get a 8800GTX AGP likely working at same benchmarks as a PCi-E version

 

[Allsorts]

As well as doubling the bandwidth, pci-e 2.0 slots can push twice the amount of power. As if gfx cards don't draw enough power already. Scary...

 

[PP Mguire]

Basically we could get a 8800GTX AGP likely working at same benchmarks as a PCi-E version

Yup. My friends GP 7950GT keeps up with my PCI-E 7950GT. Only difference is a few frames becasue of the AGP bridge used to make it work.

 

[Elven]

And the brag rights you get with having the latest hardware.

 

[PP Mguire]

I dont really give a shiz about bragging rights. I think its stupid for people to have a competition with their E-

.

 

[flib]

As well as doubling the bandwidth, pci-e 2.0 slots can push twice the amount of power. As if gfx cards don't draw enough power already. Scary...

Yep, that's true. Was thinking about this the other day with respects to the 2900 XT. Since that uses 300w at peak, it currently draws 75w from the PCI-E motherboard slot and 75w from one of the 6 pin connectors and an additional 150w from the 8 pin, making up it's 300w. But with PCI-E 2.0, you'd only need the one 8 pin cable since the PCI-E slot draws 150w, therefore a little benefit when using modular PSU's as you'd only need the one cable instead of 2

 

[Rastalovich]

It`s kinda like looking at a modem/network card that would work perfectly ok inside an ISA slot. And in a years time u`ll be looking to have to buy a pcie 2.0 thingamy just cos u`r mobo won`t do an ISA.

It`s progression, these slots are getting faster/better than the hardware that plugs into them seems to be moving themselves.

What we`d hope will happen is that some point in the future a break-through piece of hardware will come along that takes advantage of the new slots.

Meh.

Be kewl if u could get to a stage where the slot is good enough to be used as a processor slot. So u could chuck in a base pci card, and stick the processor of u`r choice on it. And use multiple slots. Multiple brand of processors is probably asking too much, but would be nice.

Slot1 - C2d

Slot2 - C2d

Slot3 - etc..

Mounted ala a gpu.