Microsoft Jumps to No. 1 in National Corporate Reputation Survey (US)
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FarFarAway
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A lot of things to say about Gates, but he gives a hella lot to charity
Rastalovich
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The Microsoft foundation, wonder if there`s a website.
Tbh, there comes a point where you have so much money that there is no reason not to give to charity. Only thing he could spend that much on would be buying another business or an army or something. Neither of which he needs as A. He has a huge business and B. Having control of MS > controlling an army.
So is he actually being generous or just parting with some pennies to look good
So is he actually being generous or just parting with some pennies to look good
FarFarAway
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Isn't he quitting MS in 2012 to just run the charity and hasn't he pledged like 10billion of his own money to that?
Might just be sleep deprivation though 
glocktodahead
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Michael Jordan having "retired," with $40 million in endorsements,
makes $178,100 a day, working or not.
If he sleeps 7 hours a night, he makes $52,000 every night while
visions of sugarplums dance in his head.
if he goes to see a movie, it'll cost him $7.00, but he'll make
$18,550 while he's there.
If he decides to have a 5-minute egg, he'll make $618 while boiling it.
He makes $7,415/hr more than minimum wage.
He'll make $3,710 while watching each episode of Friends.
If he wanted to save up for a new Acura NSX ($90,000) it would take
him a whole 12 hours.
If someone were to hand him his salary and endorsement money, they
would have to do it at the rate of $2.00 every second.
He'll probably pay around $200 for a nice round of golf, but will be
reimbursed $33,390 for that round.
Assuming he puts the federal maximum of 15% of his income into a tax
deferred account (401k), his contributions will hit the federal cap of
$9500 at 8:30 a.m. on January 1st.
If you were given a penny for every 10 dollars he made, you'd be
living comfortably at $65,000 a year.
He'll make about $19.60 while watching the 100 meter dash in the
Olympics, and about $15,600 during the Boston Marathon.
While the common person is spending about $20 for a meal in his trendy
Chicago restaurant, he'll pull in about $5600.
This year, he'll make more than twice as much as all U.S. past presidents
for all of their terms combined.
If Jordan saves 100% of his income for the next 450 years, he'll still
have less money than Bill Gates has right now.
makes $178,100 a day, working or not.
If he sleeps 7 hours a night, he makes $52,000 every night while
visions of sugarplums dance in his head.
if he goes to see a movie, it'll cost him $7.00, but he'll make
$18,550 while he's there.
If he decides to have a 5-minute egg, he'll make $618 while boiling it.
He makes $7,415/hr more than minimum wage.
He'll make $3,710 while watching each episode of Friends.
If he wanted to save up for a new Acura NSX ($90,000) it would take
him a whole 12 hours.
If someone were to hand him his salary and endorsement money, they
would have to do it at the rate of $2.00 every second.
He'll probably pay around $200 for a nice round of golf, but will be
reimbursed $33,390 for that round.
Assuming he puts the federal maximum of 15% of his income into a tax
deferred account (401k), his contributions will hit the federal cap of
$9500 at 8:30 a.m. on January 1st.
If you were given a penny for every 10 dollars he made, you'd be
living comfortably at $65,000 a year.
He'll make about $19.60 while watching the 100 meter dash in the
Olympics, and about $15,600 during the Boston Marathon.
While the common person is spending about $20 for a meal in his trendy
Chicago restaurant, he'll pull in about $5600.
This year, he'll make more than twice as much as all U.S. past presidents
for all of their terms combined.
If Jordan saves 100% of his income for the next 450 years, he'll still
have less money than Bill Gates has right now.
If i was that rich id rather give it to the poor instead of giving it to other rich people.
Rastalovich
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So it would appear the image has improved during this excercise.
If u drew in 2x as much money as bg, it wouldn`t be supprising for u do `donate` more and be given cudos for it.
If I was argueably the richest guy in the world, I`d personally do it as a tax dodge, if nothing else. But this is microsoft not bg making the donations, which we have to remember in our haste to praise.
In the same breathe as microsoft writes, mangles, the code not bg, some1 has to have the ultimate say over an entire company. If it was known that a bunch of individuals within u`r corporation we`re doing a shoddy job and releasing to the public in a quest to make money as we mend it, having been in beta for years, you could personally say `I`m not happy with this - yet`. So ultimately if u take responsiblity for the good things, do u have to bite the bullet and accept the bad things.
I was wondering what the feelings would have been about the previous years PR venture would be taken. When this was in conception, those outside ms and within the corporate circles, pointed to this as purely a strive to overtake those in the poll of the ncrs and nothing more. Worked well.
If u drew in 2x as much money as bg, it wouldn`t be supprising for u do `donate` more and be given cudos for it.
If I was argueably the richest guy in the world, I`d personally do it as a tax dodge, if nothing else. But this is microsoft not bg making the donations, which we have to remember in our haste to praise.
In the same breathe as microsoft writes, mangles, the code not bg, some1 has to have the ultimate say over an entire company. If it was known that a bunch of individuals within u`r corporation we`re doing a shoddy job and releasing to the public in a quest to make money as we mend it, having been in beta for years, you could personally say `I`m not happy with this - yet`. So ultimately if u take responsiblity for the good things, do u have to bite the bullet and accept the bad things.
I was wondering what the feelings would have been about the previous years PR venture would be taken. When this was in conception, those outside ms and within the corporate circles, pointed to this as purely a strive to overtake those in the poll of the ncrs and nothing more. Worked well.
Rastalovich
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.. about as much as it`s up to bg to bug fix DX9 ..
U have a suite of accounting personel. They tell u that u give X dollars to Y and we`ll save Z by not having to pay W, and etc. All u get to see, talking from a strictly profit related sense, the figures and the outcome, along with legalities.
Don`t be under the illusion that u walk into u`r offices and say to them "guyz we`re giving $100k to XYZ charity" - that`s just being niave.
Peoples come to u with a plan, and show u what the benefits of u doing it are and u make u`r decisions thus.
U have a suite of accounting personel. They tell u that u give X dollars to Y and we`ll save Z by not having to pay W, and etc. All u get to see, talking from a strictly profit related sense, the figures and the outcome, along with legalities.
Don`t be under the illusion that u walk into u`r offices and say to them "guyz we`re giving $100k to XYZ charity" - that`s just being niave.
Peoples come to u with a plan, and show u what the benefits of u doing it are and u make u`r decisions thus.
but he still has the final say, the suite of accounting personel you talk of offer advice on what to do, not take charge. Ofcourse he would walk into his office and say that, it would have to go through the accounts people, more than likely marketing people and 100 other departments. But he still owns the company and controls it.
Rastalovich
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Not ~necessarily~, of course it can be highly likely, and dependant of what sort of risks are involved as to how team-leaders, department heads, managers, group managers, directors, ceos - each get involed in $100, $500, $2000, $10000, $100000, $1m ventures respectively - for want of a model.
Now if the venture makes money, or saves money, as opposed to outright spending, the ceo certainly not necessarily get involved - be informed obviously. It would depend on the size of the company. Small companies are very hands on, and would expect a larger input of what group managers spent, or involved, $2000 of the companies money in. In extemely larger companies, the senior ceo will have little interest in what group managers are doing with $2000 - but they would be interested in a junior ceos venture of $2bn.
Be sure this will not lose the company money.
Now if the venture makes money, or saves money, as opposed to outright spending, the ceo certainly not necessarily get involved - be informed obviously. It would depend on the size of the company. Small companies are very hands on, and would expect a larger input of what group managers spent, or involved, $2000 of the companies money in. In extemely larger companies, the senior ceo will have little interest in what group managers are doing with $2000 - but they would be interested in a junior ceos venture of $2bn.
Be sure this will not lose the company money.
Sticky Mick
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I find a lot of company's that come under the spotlight due to unfavorable practices affecting their popularity will see throwing wads of cash at charities the ideal way of repairing the damage done.
Just an example: A public bar in my town was coming under a lot of fire from locals and the authorities for illegal practices. Allowing drugs to be taken on the premises, selling alcohol to minors, resulting in drunken brawls all that sort of thing. So he started giving thousands to local charities, people started to lay off and some of his worst enemys even began to like him. Six months later, he was bankrupt.
But this is hardly likely to happen to MS.
Just an example: A public bar in my town was coming under a lot of fire from locals and the authorities for illegal practices. Allowing drugs to be taken on the premises, selling alcohol to minors, resulting in drunken brawls all that sort of thing. So he started giving thousands to local charities, people started to lay off and some of his worst enemys even began to like him. Six months later, he was bankrupt.
But this is hardly likely to happen to MS.
FarFarAway
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Wow we've managed to have a go at Bill for giving away to charity now, awesome work lads!
Sticky Mick
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I'm not having a go because he gives to charity. It's good that a few companies do that. It's just the timing and circumstances. I know a lot of companies who do, but as in the example I posted a lot of them wait until they're seen as bad boys before they make that move.