Is there a platform?

Dawelio

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Hey guys,

I've tried looking around on the different platforms, but haven't really found any solid info... So now I'm asking you.

Is there any platform that has a 6 core CPU in an ITX motherboard?

Thanks,
Chrazey
 
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This motherboard is a little beauty. Full X99 feature set (apart from only dual channel RAM, but has no real world impact) including a 32gb/s M.2 port, and it stacks up really well against all the other X99 boards in terms of stock and overclocked performance.

The only significant difference between this and any other X99 motherboard is that it uses a narrow 2011-3 socket, which limits your cooler compatibility.

It does ship with an air cooler in the box, but it's loud. You also get a square bracket for certain Coolermaster AIOs, and you can buy a narrow bracket directly from the Asetek eBay store for the Asetek based AIO coolers from Corsair like the H100i GTX and H110i GTX.

I was due to put a build together for a family friend using this motherboard just before Christmas as he saw a video on LTT about making a bonkers Mini ITX build, so we were going to use this motherboard with a 5960X, 980Ti, 32gb DDR4 3200 and a H100i GTX inside a Corsair 380T. Unfortunately everything had to be put on hold due to a family crisis so I never got to be hands on with it, but fingers crossed everything will get sorted out and this build will be back in the running.

And yes, there will be a build log. With LOTS of pictures.
 
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The 10 core 20 thread CPU is the 6950X from Intel but it will cost quite a lot but thankfully be compatible with existing 2011-V3/X99 mobos :)

Cool, so there's isn't any date regarding release I assume?...

This motherboard is a little beauty. Full X99 feature set (apart from only dual channel RAM, but has no real world impact) including a 32gb/s M.2 port, and it stacks up really well against all the other X99 boards in terms of stock and overclocked performance.

The only significant difference between this and any other X99 motherboard is that it uses a narrow 2011-3 socket, which limits your cooler compatibility.

It does ship with an air cooler in the box, but it's loud. You also get a square bracket for certain Coolermaster AIOs, and you can buy a narrow bracket directly from the Asetek eBay store for the Asetek based AIO coolers from Corsair like the H100i GTX and H110i GTX.

I was due to put a build together for a family friend using this motherboard just before Christmas as he saw a video on LTT about making a bonkers Mini ITX build, so we were going to use this motherboard with a 5960X, 980Ti, 32gb DDR4 3200 and a H100i GTX inside a Corsair 380T. Unfortunately everything had to be put on hold due to a family crisis so I never got to be hands on with it, but fingers crossed everything will get sorted out and this build will be back in the running.

And yes, there will be a build log. With LOTS of pictures.

Cool dude! :) ... But now you've made me worrying again, that my cooler might not fit? - http://silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=598&area=en

I might actually opt for an M.2 drive, so that is a nice inclusion :)

Ahh man, I love when you can cram so much freaking powah into a small build, it's just like... freaking awesome! :D

So Dicey, how come you opted for the 5930K? and not the 3930K or the cheaper 5820K?...


So I'm assuming that the i7 3930K isn't compatible with that motherboard Feronix posted, ASRock X99E-ITX/ac, Socket-2011-3 ?.

But will the i7 5820K and i7 5930K work with it?... Also of course the more expensive i7 5960X.

What are even the differences between the 3930K, 5820K, 5930K and 5960X?...


Also, is the Socket LGA 2011-3 the same as 2011-V3 ?...
 
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Cool, so there's isn't any date regarding release I assume?...



Cool dude! :) ... But now you've made me worrying again, that my cooler might not fit? - http://silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=598&area=en

I might actually opt for an M.2 drive, so that is a nice inclusion :)

Ahh man, I love when you can cram so much freaking powah into a small build, it's just like... freaking awesome! :D

So Dicey, how come you opted for the 5930K? and not the 3930K or the cheaper 5820K?...


So I'm assuming that the i7 3930K isn't compatible with that motherboard Feronix posted, ASRock X99E-ITX/ac, Socket-2011-3 ?.

But will the i7 5820K and i7 5930K work with it?... Also of course the more expensive i7 5960X.

What are even the differences between the 3930K, 5820K, 5930K and 5960X?...


Also, is the Socket LGA 2011-3 the same as 2011-V3 ?...



X99/2011V-3 will house anything from the 5xxx series and anything from the 6xxx series once it's out :)

And yes, 2011-3 and 2011-V3 are the same thing.

I opted for the 5930K while I got it pretty much brand new for the same price as the 5820K, It was only used once to test if it worked then the owner *work mate of mine* decided he wanted a 5960X instead so sold the 5930K to me for a discount ^_^
 
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What are you using this for? Im assuming you're gonna be rendering some 4K video or doing some epic 3D Animation??
 
Probably for his daytime job of professional hardware returning.

Correction, daytime job of a professional security guard. Thank you very much.

What are you using this for? Im assuming you're gonna be rendering some 4K video or doing some epic 3D Animation??

And not sure really... mostly cause I want it lol.

But the thought has crossed my mind though.
 
Oh I'm sorry, his evening job of professional hardware returner :p

Ed. On a more serious note. If you are doing this solely as a gaming machine then beware that -

1. The Asrock is a ITX mobo. Now think about that.. ITX, 8c 16t chips. That means that the overclocking is slightly hindered compared to big X99 boards. I don't think you can overclock the 5960x at all.

2. Most X99 chips come with pretty low clocks. You then rely on portion 1 to overclock them to get them up with the 4790k et al. Given you won't be able to do that the chances are you will only get to around 4.1-4.2 ghz on the Asrock. That means that compared to say, a 4.6ghz 4790k you will actually lose gaming performance.

So unless you are rendering, encoding, decoding, etc then there's absolutely no point going with X99. You can't even use the extra lanes argument, because it's ITX.
 
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The little baby board can overclock and if you pair it with a 5820k (which is the only option which makes cost effective sense when you can only use 16 lanes) then price/performance isn't terrible compared with skylake.

The only issue I can see is heat, finding a cooler that fits into the case your planning on using is challenging enough, finding one that can be mounted to the narrow socket without fabrication is even tougher. Then potentially dissipating 140W of heat is even more difficult. For how much your going to spend, how much you actually need the threads for intensive applications (not at all as I understand) and the difficulty your going to face finding a cooler I don't think it's worth it.


Having said that, i've got one on the way which i'm hopefully pairing with a 5960X, FuryX, M.2 and some water-cooling swag. But I want it to be a total nightmare to assemble into a functional and tiny rig.

JR
 
Oh I'm sorry, his evening job of professional hardware returner :p

Ed. On a more serious note. If you are doing this solely as a gaming machine then beware that -

1. The Asrock is a ITX mobo. Now think about that.. ITX, 8c 16t chips. That means that the overclocking is slightly hindered compared to big X99 boards. I don't think you can overclock the 5960x at all.

2. Most X99 chips come with pretty low clocks. You then rely on portion 1 to overclock them to get them up with the 4790k et al. Given you won't be able to do that the chances are you will only get to around 4.1-4.2 ghz on the Asrock. That means that compared to say, a 4.6ghz 4790k you will actually lose gaming performance.

So unless you are rendering, encoding, decoding, etc then there's absolutely no point going with X99. You can't even use the extra lanes argument, because it's ITX.

Correction again, evening job of a professional sleeper. Thank you very much :p

Not sure what 8c and 16t chips are though?... I don't really overclock anything anyway, I just leave eveything stock. Specially now (hopefully) going with the Silverstone RVZ01 case.

I already have an ASUS Z97I-PLUS ITX motherboard and an 4790K so ^_^

I just want a newer motherboard, more beast of a CPU (ie 6/12 or 8/16 CPU) :p... Just because. But also thought of trying out some 3D and maybe rendering videos in the future or so.

The little baby board can overclock and if you pair it with a 5820k (which is the only option which makes cost effective sense when you can only use 16 lanes) then price/performance isn't terrible compared with skylake.

The only issue I can see is heat, finding a cooler that fits into the case your planning on using is challenging enough, finding one that can be mounted to the narrow socket without fabrication is even tougher. Then potentially dissipating 140W of heat is even more difficult. For how much your going to spend, how much you actually need the threads for intensive applications (not at all as I understand) and the difficulty your going to face finding a cooler I don't think it's worth it.


Having said that, i've got one on the way which i'm hopefully pairing with a 5960X, FuryX, M.2 and some water-cooling swag. But I want it to be a total nightmare to assemble into a functional and tiny rig.

JR

Well shieet... It always take JR to make me come to my senses :)

How come only 5820k though and not the 5930k?... (Not sure if it's the right one, but not the X one)...

Any idea where to get hold off an EVGA Z97 Stinger for my 4790K then though? :(...
 
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get a skylake if you have no clue what this is all about.
Inform yourself a bit more about X99, learn what 8c/16t means learn about all the capabilities x99 has and ITX will seem absolutely unappealing. z170 on the other hand should be quite nice in that kind of form factor.
 
8c 16t 8 core 16 thread.

How come 5820k? because the only real difference between the 5820k and 5930k is PCIE lanes. PCIE lanes you can not use with an ITX board. Well, that and the 5930k is clocked higher isn't it? 5930k = nearly always not worth getting.

If you think all of the extra expense is worth it for two cores you won't hardly ever use dude then go for it. Otherwise? you're just wasting your money.
 
8c 16t 8 core 16 thread.

How come 5820k? because the only real difference between the 5820k and 5930k is PCIE lanes. PCIE lanes you can not use with an ITX board. Well, that and the 5930k is clocked higher isn't it? 5930k = nearly always not worth getting.

If you think all of the extra expense is worth it for two cores you won't hardly ever use dude then go for it. Otherwise? you're just wasting your money.

Okay, you've made not go down the X99 route now. Thanks.

What would you say about Skylake then?... As TPC above mentioned :)
 
Okay, you've made not go down the X99 route now. Thanks.

What would you say about Skylake then?... As TPC above mentioned :)

I would say is it worth all of that extra expense for 0-20% improvements in gaming? Noting of course that the X% performance increase is only mostly down to using DDR4 instead of DDR3.

The only Skylake chip I recommend right now is the I3 6100 and only because it's quite cheap and you can overclock it. Anything above that I would go X99 5820k, because the core count easily swats aside the 4c 8t Skylake I7. That and X99 does and will have a far broader upgrade spectrum. For example you could go from 6c 12t 5820k to 8c 16t 5960x or even onto the 10c 20t Broadwell E chips. So basically you could, potentially, almost double the computing power of your rig simply by dropping in a new CPU. The same will not hold true for Skylake, and I strongly doubt you will ever see more than 4c 8t on that.

The problem is that the Skylake I7 + board + ram = £20 less than going 5820k + board + ram. And even though Skylake's cores are faster there's just absolutely no getting around the fact that the 5820k has 6c 12t and will murder the Skylake in anything remotely threaded.

Intel have priced themselves out, hilariously.
 
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