WYP
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The GPU market's third player is almost ready to game.
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could not be released fast enough.
since sandy bridge intel was milking user for 5% more performance per CPU generation because there was no competition.
now nvidia and to some degree AMD milking the GPU market.
yes shortages, miners and co. increase GPU prizes... i know the arguments and they are partly true..... but nvidia did anti consumer crap before c-19.
i hope the greedy f***s at nvidia have their own "intel surprised by ryzen moment" soon.
well hope dies last....
since sandy bridge intel was milking user for 5% more performance per CPU generation because there was no competition.
now nvidia and to some degree AMD milking the GPU market.
yes shortages, miners and co. increase GPU prizes... i know the arguments and they are partly true..... but nvidia did anti consumer crap before c-19.
i hope the greedy f***s at nvidia have their own "intel surprised by ryzen moment" soon.
well hope dies last....
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
If the leaks are true then Intel with their best silicon will be competing against Nvidia's 3070 and AMD's 6700X so not really a Ryzen moment but if they can come in at decent pricing they'll shake things up for sure.
Well let's face it, yes it could well be a Ryzen moment, AMD didn't just beat Intel out of the gate with Ryzen, and even after 2nd gen Intel still held the gaming, stability, compatibility and single core crown for a while. So yeah, facing the 3070 as equal would make for a zen moment as long as Intel could keep up with ever higher performance increases each Gen.
BUT and this is a big BUT. No! They won't come with what you call "decent" price. Just as intel's shiny new CPUs don't seem to be coming at lower prices I wouldn't expect their GPUs to get lower prices either. This is not how Intel operates, would be more likely they postpone the launch untill they can bring a stronger architecture to the market. I don't think they're doing that but I expect their GPUs to be similarly priced to their NVIDIA/AMD equivalents, maybe 5-10% cheaper just because Intel is not known for GPUs yet.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
It's impressive for a first run at a fully fledged GPU and it's Intel's deep architecture expertise flexing here. People knock on Intel now but they still have some of the best engineers in the world.
Intel's biggest hurdle will be software and driver support. They already got the performance down, it's up to their software engineers to pull it all together not just for end users but for game developers too.
Intel's biggest hurdle will be software and driver support. They already got the performance down, it's up to their software engineers to pull it all together not just for end users but for game developers too.
dazbobaby
New member
But that's exactly how Ryzen started to bulldoze
Intel CPU's. One or two great early CPU's, then a sudden influx of excellent units a year later, leaving intel licking their wounds.Personally I can't wait to see what intel do have to offer, but to shake up the market they don't need top end unobtainium, just really good high, mid and low end GPU's. If Intel to this segment right, then there will be a titanic shift in prices.
We all know that Nvidia have had sky-rocketing profits for years now, and it's all because there was no real option but their GPU's which are vastly overpriced, leaving us no choice but to pay it.
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That opinion is because you are like me, running flagship cards each gen. However for the mainstream user who would probably shop for the 3060 - 3070ti, this competition could be a great thing.
And of course if successful, will help R&D for the future. I won't hold my breath for a 3080ti rival, we tried to have AMD battling that card every generation, but they could never match its power/performance. How many times did we here "titan killer, 1080ti killer, 2080ti killer. What did they give us? the Fury X, our personal bedroom heater.
imagine something like 3dfx coming out of nowhere today.
not realistic given the R&D necessary to create a competitive GPU today.
but would that not be great....
i would love to see that 5 companys compete in the GPU sector.
yeah it is a fantasy.... a smaller company would be bought in no time.
not realistic given the R&D necessary to create a competitive GPU today.
but would that not be great....
i would love to see that 5 companys compete in the GPU sector.
yeah it is a fantasy.... a smaller company would be bought in no time.
Once upon a time we had several in the CPU market, but who remembers Cyrix these days. They deal in servers I think now.
If they can match 3070 performance I'll be impressed. Even better if they can undercut the competition on pricing. The industry needs this sooooo bad.
My first PC had a Cyrix PR233 in it! I still have that CPU around too.
I had a 166 with... MMX which was all the rage back then. That and the fear of the Y2K clock bug.
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