Intel's 10nm will not ship in high volumes until 2019 - Whiskey Lake is coming on 14n

[WYP]

Whiskey Lale is coming later this year on 14nm.



Read more about Intel delaying 10nm until 2019 and their upcoming 14nm Whiskey Lake processors.

 

[Warchild]

I bet there are a few here who wished a Whiskey Lake existed

 

[WYP]

I bet there are a few here who wished a Whiskey Lake existed

I bet Intel's manufacturing group wished that they had that to drown their sorrows. 10nm was first set to release in 2015.

 

[AngryGoldfish]

*Hmmmmm... whiskey*

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Aw Intel... Another 14nm part...

The article misses the information that it is mobile only, seemingly.

The lake exists, sadly it's only water.

How did we miss this (did we?) last year: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/872186-intel-whiskey-lakethis-is-not-a-joke/

 

[AlienALX]

I bet there are a few here who wished a Whiskey Lake existed

lmao you could pickle yourself

So let me get this straight. Intel are not moving to 10nm yet. They are already on 14 with Kaby, right? OK just checked, yes they are. So instead of actually giving us something new they are releasing pretty much the same CPU again on the same process? do I have that right?

Then I will bet the coup de gras will be the 8 core. So a whole new board (Z390) for a CPU with two more cores, that they have given a new name to?

Excuse me whilst my brain does this please..

 

[Giggyolly]

lmao you could pickle yourself

So let me get this straight. Intel are not moving to 10nm yet. They are already on 14 with Kaby, right? OK just checked, yes they are. So instead of actually giving us something new they are releasing pretty much the same CPU again on the same process? do I have that right?

Then I will bet the coup de gras will be the 8 core. So a whole new board (Z390) for a CPU with two more cores, that they have given a new name to?

Excuse me whilst my brain does this please..

It's been 14 nm since broadwell (5th gen)... oh lord.
It reminds me of when GPUs were stuck on 28nm

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Again guys, it's a mobile KBL refresh only

 

[AlienALX]

Just had word from my pal in Taiwan. He reckons Zen2 will happen before 10nm Intel. That is how bad the situ is...

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Just had word from my pal in Taiwan. He reckons Zen2 will happen before 10nm Intel. That is how bad the situ is...

Everything will pretty much happen before 10nm it seems :/

 

[AlienALX]

Everything will pretty much happen before 10nm it seems :/

That's pretty solid info too, tbh. He doesn't work at Asus any more but what he does do is journo. So that is his job, travelling around Taipei visiting people and getting it from the horse's mouth. He made a lot of friends whilst at Asus. TBH? they will probably hire him again when the shows come up in the summer.

But yeah, word on the ground is Intel's shrinking prospects are pretty dire. They are really, seriously struggling with it.

I think that has a large part to do with them hiring Jim Keller. Because tbh? AMD are making it look easy. They will have a new tech and two shrinks out before Intel can pull one.

 

[Kungfugrip]

If AMD goes 7 nm by end of the year or 2019....

AMD could have a process advantage over intel?!?! I don't think that's ever happened before?

 

[NeverBackDown]

Well if Intel can get 10nm out then they'll still be ahead.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

If AMD goes 7 nm by end of the year or 2019....

AMD could have a process advantage over intel?!?! I don't think that's ever happened before?

GloFlow its 7nm is almost identical to Intel's 10nm - the nodes from both factories cannot be compared 1:1, it's more am apples and oranges thing.

 

[NeverBackDown]

GloFlow its 7nm is almost identical to Intel's 10nm - the nodes from both factories cannot be compared 1:1, it's more am apples and oranges thing.

There's a lot more it all as you said.

Everybody but Intel uses a "class based system" whereas Intel uses the actual number to represent the actual size.

10nm Samsung class is basically 10-14nm. Most others use that as well. Thats not even including the fact that they the chip may be using higher lithography size inside the CPU package (like a h265 encoder).

Intel is just pretty simple. It says it's 14nm. Everything is 14nm. That's also why they always have the best CPU cache sizes/pitch when compared to another competitors equal "nm" size.