Intel i7 4790K Devils

[joey117]

I am think of updating my rig it is currently :

3930k Intel
Asus gene 4
8 gb Ram
2 x evga 680
SSD
Full Air cooling

Updates to rig :

Intel i7 4790K Devils
(suggestion most be a M-atx ) Motherboard
16 gb of ram
2x evga 680
Bigger SSD
Fulll water cooling loop 1 360mm , 2x 240mm and NF 12 Fans

Questions ?

1. Will i get better power companion
2. Will it be Quieter
3. Will the cpu be more powerful in games
4. If 4k take off will the cards handle it
5. How well does the normal 4790k over clock
6. Could you run the updated rig on AX 750 PSU

 

[MadShadow]

Question 1: Whats a power companion?

Question 2: We dont know what your current air cooler is, though if you'll have fans running slowly on those rads it could potentially be quieter.

Question 3: The CPU has a higher clock speed, so yes. (But a small difference)

Question 4: It won't run brilliantly, no.

Question 5: Depends on the silicon lottery

Question 6: Here is your rig on PC Partpicker: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/836K23
This shows that it will be able to run off of an AX 760.

 

[NeverBackDown]

1. Power consumption depends on overclocking.
2. Obviously will be more quiet if you put it under water and use proper fans along with speed reducers.
3. CPU is a sidestep. Won't see really any difference in gaming.
4. 4k is taking off just slowly. No the cards won't be able to handle it but don't worry about that until you get a 4k monitor.
5. No one knows what normal is. Its literally just come out.. Gotta find out yourself. Expect 4.6ghz for an average but its down to how well the core is.
6. Yes you could run it on a ax750.

Lastly imo don't even bother upgrading to a newer platform. Just up the ram/bigger ssd/ and a full loop. Save a lot of money that way and performance won't change much.

 

[Kushiro]

hey mate, just to chip in a little, apparently some of the 4790k reviews dont have many good things to say about the power consumption end in regards to overclock gains. Also in theory yes, it will be quieter, that is if you are asking relative to the performance it will provide.

Dont have any first hand experience with it yet, so take the info I gave you with a grain of salt.

Also I know you didnt have this as one of the questions, however I dont see any real point in upgrading at this point in time, especially after looking at your current components. Frankly the 4790k could be seen as a downgrade. Why not just switch to watercooling now and OC the 3930K? or even a good air cooler.

 

[Kaapstad]

There is no way I would swap a 3930k for a 4790k for 4K gaming. The hexcore is the better CPU for running multi GPU setups (needed for 4K) and can overclock higher than most 4790k CPUs too. I think there are even a couple of games that can make use of the extra cores and threads the 3930k has.

The only reason you would use a 4790k is if you have a single or possibly two cards where you get a tiny boost in efficiency.

If you are serious about 4K you also need to ditch the GTX 680s fast as they don't have the GPU grunt, VRAM or memory bus to be much use.

 

[joey117]

I have try over clocking my 3930k and it is useless 4.4 ghz at 1.300v ( manual set volts and ram manual setup )and then the ram will not even run at 1600 and it is a 2400 kit , and that is not even talking about the temps

 

[tinytomlogan]

I have try over clocking my 3930k and it is useless 4.4 ghz at 1.300v ( manual set volts and ram manual setup )and then the ram will not even run at 1600 and it is a 2400 kit , and that is not even talking about the temps

the 1600 memory problem is you 100%

Temps again is your cooling and your set up.

a 4.4ghz 3930k will obliterate a 4.4ghz 4790k

 

[joey117]

I have a NH-d14 and it can not keep the temps down + the ram could be my faulty because i am new to over clocking and allot to learn but i spend 2 week on the forums and got no were with the problem.

 

[Kushiro]

How is the 3930k useless at 4.4GHZ??? in regards to your temperature issue: what temps are you getting? if they are really that bad, have you checked the TIM? As the NH-d14 is quite a decent air cooler...

Also you might want to check your settings for the RAM OC, it is impossible for such a problem to occur, unless it is due to hardware incompatibility or user error.

 

[joey117]

To be honest CPU and ram is run at standard , the ram is at 1333 MHz and it is a 2400 MHz kit and CPU is compete standard , because I lost faith in it because of blue screen and just not stably at all after 2 week of trying . I can try again but i do not think I can do again different results.

Sorry for the bad English I am very dyslexia sorry

 

[tinytomlogan]

To be honest CPU and ram is run at standard , the ram is at 1333 MHz and it is a 2400 MHz kit and CPU is compete standard , because I lost faith in it because of blue screen and just not stably at all after 2 week of trying . I can try again but i do not think I can do again different results.

Sorry for the bad English I am very dyslexia sorry

Thats because you didnt set it up right...... Like I said before. This is high end kit for people who know a thing or two not basic haswell click and run. If you dont learn how to set it up you have just wasted your money.

Also youve probably got a 1:100 chance of your CPU being able to do 2400MHz - 2133 may be doable but again it still needs to bios setting up correctly.

 

[joey117]

Ok tom I will try watching your video again about setup ram and c if I can find what I missed. Hope I can find problem it would be nice to got the profromer boost

Did some quick tests 15 mim long

/volt Core/ /Speed / /Temp/
1.150/ /4.2/ ----- 30 mins tested
1.200/ /4.2/ /67c hottest core 66c TWPIN 3--------- 30 min tested
1.250/ /4.2/ / 72c hottest core
1.250/ /4.4 / /Crashed and soon as occt started
1.300 / /4.4/ /77c hottest core 79c TWPIN 3

all i did was change vcore and core speed and Load line cal to Extreme


Thanks