WYP
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Intel claims they have the "world's fastest gaming processor". Here's what's new with Comet Lake!
Read more about Intel's Comet Lake-S series processors.
Read more about Intel's Comet Lake-S series processors.
Intel brings new features to desktop with its 10th Generation of Comet Lake-S CPUs
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KingNosser
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A lot of us have already switched or do they not see the sales charts, but tbh if I was going to get a Intel chip this isn't the one don't see there being huge gains just a product number to me atm but the prices I feel are going to be higher than I'd want to pay.
Intels track record over the last decade isn't good in my eyes but they are a company it's not like they can just stop they want money like any corporation and AMD is no different, but Intel are behind and need to really change their ways I haven't forgotten them sketchy benchmarks done by an outsourced marketting company but yea sure it's the fastest
shhh don't talk about multitasking.....
Intels track record over the last decade isn't good in my eyes but they are a company it's not like they can just stop they want money like any corporation and AMD is no different, but Intel are behind and need to really change their ways I haven't forgotten them sketchy benchmarks done by an outsourced marketting company but yea sure it's the fastest
shhh don't talk about multitasking.....
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AlienALX
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I heard $500 and $400? can't for the life of me remember where though.
Either way I can see a price drop coming from AMD. And then we will be back to where we are now. Mostly because their sales patter is an oxymoron. It sits there boasting about clock speed and how games need less cores, but is a 10 core. LOL.
So that means the 9900k would be identical, and you wouldn't need a new board etc.
I don't get it man. A whole new chipset, boards and etc for a CPU that's exactly the same with up to two more cores? still no PCIE4 either.
Either way I can see a price drop coming from AMD. And then we will be back to where we are now. Mostly because their sales patter is an oxymoron. It sits there boasting about clock speed and how games need less cores, but is a 10 core. LOL.
So that means the 9900k would be identical, and you wouldn't need a new board etc.
I don't get it man. A whole new chipset, boards and etc for a CPU that's exactly the same with up to two more cores? still no PCIE4 either.
g0ggles1994
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This marketing horse dung is exactly why games dont utilize CPUs more! This is not a drum to bang like its an achievement, it is holding the industry back! This attitude doesn't advance the industry, it just serves that all they care about is milking it! Total, utter, horse s***!
AlienALX
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Yeah 60% of games going all the way back to DOS ffs.
KingNosser
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There are slides around showing $488 at the top end, but tbh it doesn't seem worth it to me once you price in the mobo, sure if your on an older chip and looking to upgrade it's an option but not one I'd take and just how many times does Intel need to switch socket that's right everytime it seems.
The whole green badge, blue badge culture in their company I've been hearing about sounds so bad, leaks flooding out from ex staff really does paint a bad picture, but i'll not judge too harshly not heard much about the other tech companies to say if it's good or bad tbh more a grey area.
The whole green badge, blue badge culture in their company I've been hearing about sounds so bad, leaks flooding out from ex staff really does paint a bad picture, but i'll not judge too harshly not heard much about the other tech companies to say if it's good or bad tbh more a grey area.
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Dark NighT
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Been looking at the information here and there, on top of the probably insanely priced top end motherboards this cpu lineup seems completely out of place and offers nothing more then top end clocks on a really old node and the new chipset offers nothing but 2.5gb lan and wifi. /boring!
AlienALX
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They're pricing it against the 3900x. Which AMD has pretty much enjoyed full RRP prices on since launch.
All AMD need to do is lower the prices so that the 3900x under cuts this, then bring down the 3950x price to make this look like a bad decision.
With Ryzen and Ryzen + (1000 and 2000 series) they cut prices rather quickly. 3000 however? have remained pretty much where they were than launch. Well, once the production ramped up and you could get them and wasn't being gouged by your local ramrod.
This is almost too easy for AMD. So yeah, Intel CPUs provide 15% more (that's going on what I think these will do) but they are failing to realise that by that stage AMD FPS figures are well over a hundred and people don't care unless they are obsessive. I only turn on FPS overlays now if I see issues. Which tbh? is very rare. I usually find the overlay causes more issues than it helps with too, as 3dmark flat out refuses to run and will crash straight back to desktop with it enabled.
It's all about value. Especially now. It will become much more about value in the months and possibly years ahead too, when people start financial recovery.
And they had a massive problem with said LAN and had to go back to the drawing board before launch, hence the delay. That said it would have been another Sandy Bridge board disaster if they hadn't spotted it before launch. That cost them millions.
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KingNosser
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AMD will have 4000 series and Rdna2, cdna launch later this year really not far away the 3000 series will drop in price as will the ones below that, it's going to be a hard lesson.
add to that xbox and ps5 all around the same time AMD are in the perfect position to take advantage it was a long time coming but it's well deserved and I'm glad I switched but really want rdna2 to be top tier.
The shoe is on the other foot now in my view, but both are needed to keep things competitive so I don't wish bad on Intel but it's also deserved.
add to that xbox and ps5 all around the same time AMD are in the perfect position to take advantage it was a long time coming but it's well deserved and I'm glad I switched but really want rdna2 to be top tier.
The shoe is on the other foot now in my view, but both are needed to keep things competitive so I don't wish bad on Intel but it's also deserved.
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AlienALX
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Not one Youtube tech or shill is suggesting any one buy Intel now. Why would that change with two more cores?
Die hards only tbh, and you better be at one with death.
KingNosser
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Reminds me of the Linus video oh my now that was unexpected but also really entertaining glad he spoke his mind. I was happy on the 2500k but Idk there wasn't an upgrade for me with Intel sure 10% here 15% there blah blah IPC but my i5 2500k was solid 5ghz for years it wasn't a bad product it was a really good chip, but like anyone once you see a meaningful upgrade I'm not going to care who makes it so long as it gives me what i want at a good price so hello Ryzen 1700 whats this an upgrade path wow so yea at some point in time it'll be another Ryzen.
I think the biggest issue is the whole clock speed debate you can't really compare different arks to say that one at 5ghz is instantly better than one at 4ghz what matters is performance. Sure Intel has the edge on single core but mulit tasking for the most part they get ran over forwards and backwards and it's not like I'm only ever doing one task on my PC at a time. I'd really like to see some heavy real world testing where a game is running, music a stream being watched and also streaming at the same time then compare the two I think we all know what the result will be, but I'd like this to be in reviews more than it currently is as testing.
I really agree with you that the whole fps thing for me is a thing of the past, 5fps up or down I'm not going to notice my eyes are not that judging, i've yet to go 4k or even 2k yet just don't feel the need atm but 4k or 8k at some stage would be nice but idk will i need to look at fps then I doubt it tbh.
so yea at some point in time it'll be another Ryzen.I think the biggest issue is the whole clock speed debate you can't really compare different arks to say that one at 5ghz is instantly better than one at 4ghz what matters is performance. Sure Intel has the edge on single core but mulit tasking for the most part they get ran over forwards and backwards and it's not like I'm only ever doing one task on my PC at a time. I'd really like to see some heavy real world testing where a game is running, music a stream being watched and also streaming at the same time then compare the two I think we all know what the result will be, but I'd like this to be in reviews more than it currently is as testing.
I really agree with you that the whole fps thing for me is a thing of the past, 5fps up or down I'm not going to notice my eyes are not that judging, i've yet to go 4k or even 2k yet just don't feel the need atm but 4k or 8k at some stage would be nice but idk will i need to look at fps then I doubt it tbh.
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dazbobaby
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I'll just leave this here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agxSclh27uo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agxSclh27uo
AlienALX
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After watching one video today (and finding out how Intel have priced these) it's very clear they don't use web history to show that they are pricing against AMD RRP, which hasn't existed since about 2 months after the 3000 release.
And with Intel? those *will* be the prices. Right until they discontinue it.
This is simply shooting fish in a barrel for AMD. Quick price drop, job done.
And with Intel? those *will* be the prices. Right until they discontinue it.
This is simply shooting fish in a barrel for AMD. Quick price drop, job done.
AlienALX
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WYP
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The headline says "new features to desktop". Turbo Boost 3.0, Thermal Velocity Boost and unique capabilities within Intel's new Extreme Tuning Utility are all new to Intel's mainstream desktop lineup with Comet Lake-S. Coffee Lake-S didn't have those.
Yes, many of these changes were in other Intel products in the past, but they are new to mainstream desktop products with Comet Lake. Unless you want to redefine what "features" are...
If you need a definition; Feature "a typical quality or an important part of something". Basically, a feature is anything. My nose is a facial feature, etc etc.
Just because you don't consider something to be innovative enough doesn't mean that it isn't new or can't be considered a feature.
