Intel ARC Battlemage GPU Specifications Leak

[AlienALX]

OK again. I don't care who is the hero I care about my bank balance. That is the part you are not seeing dude.

I won't buy one until I know they aren't going to ditch it, and the continually improving drivers. As I said, I do desperately want to support them but I ain't stupid.

6800XT has been amazing, so has the 6700XT Strix. Had I listened to people though? then the drivers would have taken my first born and etc etc. So I didn't. As I explained to you when I bought both I did so because of the VFM - nothing else. I didn't want to support AMD, because their RRP prices are extracting the urine now. Same money, less features. Nope.

I don't feel sorry for Intel. I don't feel sorry for any one, not even myself. Like I said, 100%? I feel sorry for my bank account. Always have, always will. The outgoings will not decrease all the time Nvidia get to pick prices and AMD get to bum them and copy them. End of.

Just like how I didn't care if Piledriver smelled like poo and people made fun of me for going AMD. 0 regrets, it did the job very well and it was cheap AF and overclocking was the most fun I had had in years.

 

[KingNosser]

That is the point, Intel is not even if they had brought out a 3080 style card it'll not have been cheap, they aren't going to save you a penny or make nvidia lower prices, which lets face it is all most people want for nvidia to lower prices and then oh guess what keep on buying, people don't even know what they want.

Me for better or worse Intel ed me off to the point I gave ryzen a chance and Nvidia with keeping everything gen locked that was me out, which is why i wanted a 6800XT so badly, now i'm full AMD and not going back even at a higher price.

Intel and Nvidia sure had no care when AMD were near bankrupt, so why exactly would i want to ever support them now knowing all they ever want is to be at the top at any cost.

Intel I feel are out soon they just dont have the balance they once did and when you think how much it's cost them to put out a 6600XT and just how long it took them, you really think they are sticking around.

still they were both happy when AMD had a share price of $2 seems shoe is on the other foot now, me i've never outrightly been a supporter in tech but i'm now at a point where the best option for me is far away from Intel and Nvidia for all the reasons you'd expect.

Case in point i told you plenty about my card and the drivers, but i'm not going easy on amd either the new cards didn't live upto what they said they would, the reason to get a 7000 card isn't there and AM5 is not yet next gen, zero reason to upgrade to something not worth the cost.

Intel save you money ? So they will give you two chips per mobo and in reality they are not cheaper in a meaningful way and are more than happy to max it if they are ahead at least amd are being inovative with cache etc and are viable again and so long as they keep doing so they will have me buying them, often not striaght away as like with my 5800x I got it for £225 and didnt need to buy a new mobo.

13900ks £750 13900k £580
AMD 7950x3d £590

So exactly how are they cheaper and saving you money ?

 

[AlienALX]

So basically after all of this you basically agree with me. You said you gave Ryzen a chance because you were -ed off with Intel. This is absolutely no different. No matter which way you shake it dude. Have Intel been nasty in the past? 100%. I don't disagree AT ALL. That however has totally changed. They also listen a lot more than they used to as well.

However, none of this gets around the fact that Nvidia are the biggest P taker in the history OF ALL computer part P takers. There is simply absolutely no arguing that, at all. And that will not change if Intel fail. In fact, I would bet my bottom dollar that if they do fail? Nvidia will raise their prices further. As there would be absolutely no conceivable threat from anywhere, or any one.

I would understand your argument IF Intel were asking for money before they released a product. You know? like all of those kick starter companies that promise to change the world yet deliver very little. Well Intel DO have a product and it is available now.

Also.

ARC GPUs are very good. Period. They perform up there with a 3060Ti which let's face it here, most of the world buys and uses. Apparently when leaked the performance was supposed to be near a 2080ti. Thing is? it sort of is. The 3060Ti ain't far off.

Cost of the GPU dies relative to the cost of the product is very low. They are big dies. That would not have been cheap to do. They also didn't skimp by putting a tacky nasty cooler on them either, the coolers are one of the best stock coolers I have seen in many years. They are not obnoxious to look at, and are a dual slot design.

At first? I could sort of somewhat get your drift. The drivers were indeed absolutely awful. The thing is? now they are not. I can't put it any more simply than that. So there is no reason not to support them APART from what I said. If they are about to pan it then they will stop writing drivers and that is indeed a very valid reason not to buy. For me? it is the only reason I don't have one now.

And I couldn't care if it has Intel on it. Anything other than £1700 Nvidia sounds a lot better to me and my wallet.

 

[KingNosser]

I didn't say not to buy one or that it was now bad just that you might have an issue or 2 or one of your games maybe have an issue, it just wasn't like that at the start.

In fairness to nvidia as much as i hate them more than Intel by a long way in many reasons the 4090 while all the cards right now are massive and that card is overpriced like everything it is the only real upgrade card.

So like any sensible person i'll wait for something in a gen or two whenever the time comes.

Intel cheap thou just isnt true and while competition is a good thing, I do not see anyone being able to force nvidia to lower prices, as even if they don't have the gaming market at some point in time they do not care about it anyway.

If the Intel falls lower as it is a fire sale I'd get one at a cheaper price, but you don't need to be concered if it'll last or even about driver support they need to do that at minimum and have a huge software team.

But if Intel are in or not in the market it changes nothing.

Nvidia were talking to amd at one point years back to buy them, they tried with arm, if Intels share price drops too much more it wouldn't surprise me if they tried the same with Intel, that is the only concern i have with Intel.

imho Intel either go all in or they get out of the GPU market as it's costing them a ton and they are losing else where there server side of things is a shrinking market for them atm they need to refocus and do something about it or they are not going to last.