IE8 to be "turn off-able" in Windows 7
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Very nice, but i'd much rather have this option at install time so the bloat never gets installed in the first place.
I'm guessing that all this customisation will make nlite's job easier though and custom installs won't be riddled with weird problems like they are on a vlited vista.
I'm guessing that all this customisation will make nlite's job easier though and custom installs won't be riddled with weird problems like they are on a vlited vista.
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But is it wise to completely remove internet explorer? I mean sometimes, for example, doing those Panda Active Scan, or visiting certain sites that only support Internet Explorer, that **** up with FF3 or Chrome?
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But is it wise to completely remove internet explorer? I mean sometimes, for example, doing those Panda Active Scan, or visiting certain sites that only support Internet Explorer, that **** up with FF3 or Chrome?
-HypoG
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tbh, (i know i'll be on my own here) I never rate all the browsers that differently. I mean, they all perform the same thing, ok IE is more likely to get hijacked and i suppose thats a biggy. But when it comes down to speed of pages loading etc, the difference is that small. It's not as if your sitting there waiting for the page to change. My attention has always been more on the actual website and not the browser.
name='nathan' said:
You are forgetting other factors.
Firefox has more customisation. IE has toolbars which are meaningless and are almost always available for Firefox as well.
Opera and others became famous because they were alternatives. Again like you said, they were faster and a lot more secure. You are just part of the minority who doesn't care about speed and much (no offence) about security.
You are truly standing alone on the island.
Gonna disagree that he's standing alone on an island.
Fact is, IE is still the most used browser to date. I agree that IE has and probably always will be a nightmare for web developers (upcoming IE8 probably being the absolute worst of them all), but from a user standpoint, it does it's job.
IE7 is a fairly solid browser. It's stable, relatively fast, and it didn't have many issues rendering pages. I don't care about extensions or anything like that (and neither do most people), so it did the job.
IE8 on the other hand, I won't defend in the slightest. It is - without a doubt - the worst release of IE and the worst software release in general that Microsoft has ever pooped out. (Yes, that includes Windows Me folks)
It should be that way. For some strange reason, Microsoft thinks having a customizable installation will complicate the setup process too much.
Fact is, IE is still the most used browser to date. I agree that IE has and probably always will be a nightmare for web developers (upcoming IE8 probably being the absolute worst of them all), but from a user standpoint, it does it's job.
IE7 is a fairly solid browser. It's stable, relatively fast, and it didn't have many issues rendering pages. I don't care about extensions or anything like that (and neither do most people), so it did the job.
IE8 on the other hand, I won't defend in the slightest. It is - without a doubt - the worst release of IE and the worst software release in general that Microsoft has ever pooped out. (Yes, that includes Windows Me folks)
name='Jim' said:
It should be that way. For some strange reason, Microsoft thinks having a customizable installation will complicate the setup process too much.
This browser battle is a bit annoying for me. As a former web developer I had to use IE mostly (from version 6 to the newest beta), FF2/3 (when loaded with firebug and web developer toolbar is great for web devel), Safari and Opera. Because when you make something on the web it has to work 100% with IE and then maybe work with the others.
The only browser that was truly problematic was Opera. At this time I am getting more and more into Chrome and it has become my default browser.
I really don't see the problem with having multiple browsers. It's not like having AV codecs that can crash your system if you're not careful. If you don't click the icon it won't run. So if you don't like IE, don't click the icon.
It's funny how you all want to have IE removed completely from the OS install stage, but how will you install another browser if you cannot download it with IE?
(telnet, scp, ftp...)
And about standards. Spare me. Please. Every browser has it's own idea about how to render "stuff". There are plenty of sites out there that are compliant with all the standards you want, but render differently in most browsers. In some, like Opera, they don't even work properly.
Again, if you don't like it, don't click it. I'm sure there are other icons that you never know existed in your OS.
The only browser that was truly problematic was Opera. At this time I am getting more and more into Chrome and it has become my default browser.
I really don't see the problem with having multiple browsers. It's not like having AV codecs that can crash your system if you're not careful. If you don't click the icon it won't run. So if you don't like IE, don't click the icon.
It's funny how you all want to have IE removed completely from the OS install stage, but how will you install another browser if you cannot download it with IE?
(telnet, scp, ftp...)And about standards. Spare me. Please. Every browser has it's own idea about how to render "stuff". There are plenty of sites out there that are compliant with all the standards you want, but render differently in most browsers. In some, like Opera, they don't even work properly.
Again, if you don't like it, don't click it. I'm sure there are other icons that you never know existed in your OS.
name='Sihastru' said:This browser battle is a bit annoying for me. As a former web developer I had to use IE mostly (from version 6 to the newest beta), FF2/3 (when loaded with firebug and web developer toolbar is great for web devel), Safari and Opera. Because when you make something on the web it has to work 100% with IE and then maybe work with the others.
The only browser that was truly problematic was Opera. At this time I am getting more and more into Chrome and it has become my default browser.
I really don't see the problem with having multiple browsers. It's not like having AV codecs that can crash your system if you're not careful. If you don't click the icon it won't run. So if you don't like IE, don't click the icon.
It's funny how you all want to have IE removed completely from the OS install stage, but how will you install another browser if you cannot download it with IE?
And about standards. Spare me. Please. Every browser has it's own idea about how to render "stuff". There are plenty of sites out there that are compliant with all the standards you want, but render differently in most browsers. In some, like Opera, they don't even work properly.
Again, if you don't like it, don't click it. I'm sure there are other icons that you never know existed in your OS.
But say you set a browser other than IE6/7/8 as your default.
There are some programs that always open IE instead of the default.
And your whole idea of "If you don't like it, don't click it" doesn't work when some websites require to actually "click it" even if you still don't like it.
name='zak4994' said:But say you set a browser other than IE6/7/8 as your default.
There are some programs that always open IE instead of the default.
And your whole idea of "If you don't like it, don't click it" doesn't work when some websites require to actually "click it" even if you still don't like it.
Most programs i've used open up your default browser. not a specific one.
If a program opens IE instead of another default browser then it is coded poorly. The default browser setting is found in two places in the system registry. One place is to find the application that is assigned to a certain extension and the other is to find the actual location of that application.
If the program opens IE then it is most likely hard coded to open IE. That is just bad programming and has nothing to do with IE.
And the same idea about the sites that are coded for IE. Most likely ActiveX controls are the problem. Again, you can't blame Microsoft and IE because some programmers were lazy enough to ignore the other browsers.
If the program opens IE then it is most likely hard coded to open IE. That is just bad programming and has nothing to do with IE.
And the same idea about the sites that are coded for IE. Most likely ActiveX controls are the problem. Again, you can't blame Microsoft and IE because some programmers were lazy enough to ignore the other browsers.
