I7-4790K and RAM (Over 1600 ghz)

yorkieflyer

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Hi,

About to buy a whole heap of components to build a new PC (gaming) but mostly for fsx. . . Anyway . . .

Here's the rig:

Case: Corsair 780t
Motherboard: Maximus VII Ranger
Processor: Core i7-4970k
Graphics Card: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX Edition Card
RAM: Vengeance Pro Series 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1866Mhz CL9 XMP Performance
Hard Drive: Seagate 7200.14 2TB SATA III 3.5" Hard Drive
Wifi Adapter: Belkin Surf Plus 300Mbps USB 2.0 WiFi Adapter
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB DVD Writer Optical Drive
PSU: Corsair RM Series 650W Power Supply 80 Plus Gold
Monitor: BenQ RL2455HM 24" Full HD LED Monitor

Just a couple of questions about my selected hardware.

CPU: I understand from the youtube video that intel's statement about 1600mhz Ram is not something to be concerned and that much higher speeds can be attained from this CPU, however I just want to make sure that if I'm buying the RAM at higher stock speeds, will this still be compatible with the processor?

RAM: I have also been considering HyperX Savage 16GB DDR3 1866MHz Dual Channel instead of the corsair. . . Other than aesthetics is there any advantage over the corsair ram?

PSU: Do i need PSU with more watts?

Thanks in advanced, and sorry to be such a newby with probablly really simple questions. If anyone feels i've missed anything off, please shout out.
 
CPU: The CPU is perfectly fine with 1600mhz+ ram.

RAM: Go with the Vengeance, better timings. Though you should manually OC everything anyways.

PSU: No, that PSU is perfectly capable of powering your system with juice to spare.

I would suggest that you rid yourself of the internal ODD and purchase an external one. Consider switching from the wifi adapter to an EoP set instead if you have a recently built house or wiring is in decent condition.

Be wary of EVGA's mounting problems and nVidias GTX 970 memory allocation. Though the prior shouldnt be a concern.
 
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CPU: The CPU is perfectly fine with 1600mhz+ ram.

Be wary of EVGA's mounting problems and nVidias GTX 970 memory allocation. Though the prior shouldnt be a concern.

I'm very flexible re: manufacturer of the GPU, however because the rig is going to be a Flight Simulation rig the Graphics Card really needs to be nVidia. Would changing manufacturer to Gigabyte / Asus be of any advantage to help with the GTX 970 mounting problems?

RAM: Go with the Vengeance, better timings. Though you should manually OC everything anyways.

PSU: No, that PSU is perfectly capable of powering your system with juice to spare.

I would suggest that you rid yourself of the internal ODD and purchase an external one. Consider switching from the wifi adapter to an EoP set instead if you have a recently built house or wiring is in decent condition.

Noted, and will be changing those items in the shopping list now.
 
I'm very flexible re: manufacturer of the GPU, however because the rig is going to be a Flight Simulation rig the Graphics Card really needs to be nVidia. Would changing manufacturer to Gigabyte / Asus be of any advantage to help with the GTX 970 mounting problems?

Whilst the mounting problems are more than likely not something you will experience, there is indeed a very slim chance that you may get one of the old revision units.

Consider the Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 gaming. Great card. Note that all GTX 970 will have the memory allocation issue and nVidia has no intentions of rectifying it.
 
Note that all GTX 970 will have the memory allocation issue and nVidia has no intentions of rectifying it.


Ok, that kinda sucks. . . how exchanging that for one of the following instead? :

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Graphics Card
Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Graphics Card

I'm asuming that the issue with mounting still exists with the EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Graphics Card (Super Over Clocked edition)

It's a little more than I had budgeted for, but if it means that there isn't the memory allocation issue, then it'll be worth it (i think)
 
There was never an issue with the GTX 980 variant from EVGA. Frankly I would recommend picking up a 780(ti) or a kepler titan for cheap. The GTX 980 is terrible value.

If you dont want to get a kepler GPU, then just stick with the GTX 970, it would be decent for FSX.
 
Thanks to your help, and also the reviews over on youtube, I have now succesfully purchased everything i need for my new rig. I went with the Asus GTX970 rather than the gtx980.

Looking forward to it all coming tomorrow so that i can sit in amazement at all it and wonder how the hell it all goes together LOL! . . And the learning curve continues.

Exited! :)
 
DOnt forget youll have to make sure you set your ram to run at rated in the BIOS

Id have said get 2133 or 2400 memory tbh
 
Allow me to say that the cpu is "overkill" for fsx.
An i5 would serve the purpose perfectly too. The lack of an SSD is quite disturbing since you are spending an awful lot of money on hardware. Get an i5 and try to buy a nice 512GB SSD ;)
 
DOnt forget youll have to make sure you set your ram to run at rated in the BIOS

Id have said get 2133 or 2400 memory tbh

Maybe in the future I can upgrade the RAM, or when the package comes tomorrow I can return the ram and get 2400 instead.

I'll definitley be looking out for the guides on the OC3D youtube channel re: making sure the ram is set to run at rated in the BIOS. and a whole heap of other stuff. It is my first build and I'm really looking forward to the journey :)

Allow me to say that the cpu is "overkill" for fsx.
An i5 would serve the purpose perfectly too. The lack of an SSD is quite disturbing since you are spending an awful lot of money on hardware. Get an i5 and try to buy a nice 512GB SSD ;)

I've come to realise re the SDD, and I've actually added an SSD to the order, but only a small one that I can run windows 7 64bit on for now.

I have no issues in purchasing a bigger SDD at a later date, but one of the issues I had with the SSD Hard drive for FSX at the moment is that I could fill a 512GB with FSX and the addons I use quite quickly and as far as I'm aware many FSX addon's don't like being installed onto a seperate HD to fsx.

RE: CPU. Aparently I saved £258.02 by purchasing the core I7 at £281.99 instead of RRP £540.01

Whilst it probably is an overkill for FSX, I have intentions of rendering videos from FSX for youtube and also as much as I say it's not going to be used for work related stuff, I just know i'll wind up wanting to transfer Lightwave 3D over onto the new rig when I get to know the power of it. I'm currently running everything on a Imac : Core i5 Quad Core 2,7GHz - RAM 4GB 1333 MHZ DDR3 - AMD Radeon HD 6770M 512 MB GDDR5 .. I have a cool crazy feeling that the new rig is going kick some serious butt out of that mac and I'm never going to want to use it again :D

Thanks again guys for your time, and input so far. Very much appreciated oc3d has been very much of help, both here and over on the youtube channel and I'm really glad i've found such helpful community willing to help and offer advice and information.
 
That looks like a load of **** to be honest. The 4970k should never have costed that much.

Might I ask why you didnt get the CPU off Amazon or newegg etc? Would have probably paid almost half their so called discounted price.


Also the reason I didnt tell OP to get a different set of ram was because I had was working off what OP provided and assumed they would be overclocking since they got the 4790k.
 
That looks like a load of **** to be honest. The 4970k should never have costed that much.

Might I ask why you didnt get the CPU off Amazon or newegg etc? Would have probably paid almost half their so called discounted price.

It looks that way to me now too!

The reason I chose not to purchase the CPU from Amazon was because it was only a £10 difference in price I paid at CCL, I thought that I had saved nearly that by ordering it with the other stuff I bought from CCL on P&P. Unfortunately I didn't know about Newegg, and sadly having looked at only at the CPU and GPU so far on Newegg (both are considerably cheaper!)

EDIT: Actually I must correct myself from what I said above and below. I've looked into Newegg's prices, and whilst the products are cheaper by quite a long way, with UK taxes added to the price + delivery it does work out more expensive shopping from Newegg. . . Phew that's a bit of a relief.

Also the reason I didnt tell OP to get a different set of ram was because I had was working off what OP provided and assumed they would be overclocking since they got the 4790k.

I'm not trying to justify my decision re: RAM as it does seems like I probably could have bought 2400 without stretching the budget had I have known about Newegg and their wide variety of choice/cost difference in both CPU and GPU.

Having said that there is no reason why I cannot learn to OC, as its all part of a new journey to build/update/customise my own build. :)
 
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For fsx the graphics power isn't a massive importance (for the Microsoft version). The two main things are a decent processor, i5 4690k will do fine, and an ssd.
 
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