Huge RTX 5090 performance gains teased by reliable leaker
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AlienALX
Well-known member
Of course dude. Why would you bother with games when you can sell two lumps of the exact same silicon for $35k? No one would ever be that silly.
This, to me? pretty much says it all.
They have even edited their own Wiki page.
It was also revealed recently by Rich Leadbetter, who outright asked Bethesda why DLSS was not in Starfield. Their response? "Nvidia have not approached us". Sure enough, after all of the finger pointing and blaming AMD? Nvidia finally got in touch with Bethesda and now it is coming.
It has also been said that Nvidia are cutting driver investment on gaming and so on. Which again, makes complete sense, when you can have that same team providing support for $35k AI GPUs.
Personally I think that the future of PC gaming now lies in the hands of AMD and Intel. Who will have to duke it out. Nvidia just seem to be completely uninterested, which again makes sense. They have delayed the 5000 series by a whole year, which again speaks volumes.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
I did a test a few weeks back with a friend of mine, He is quite the PC novice but he's been on various PC gaming social media pages long enough to get sucked into the cult that irrationally hates frame generation or "fAkE fRaMeS".
He came round and really wanted to play Spiderman Remastered as his rig isn't up to the task at decent settings, He was really enjoying himself but I had frame generation disabled.
He went to the toilet and I enabled frame generation, When he came back I said to him -
"I applied a preset overclock I have to the card, Should run a little smoother now"
He sat down, Resumed playing and said -
"Damn this is smoother, Didn't know overclocking your card could make such a big difference"
I haven't told him yet....
That's a placebo effect. He doesn't know any better, if you told him something else he'd believe it to because he believes you.
AlienALX
Well-known member
Aye. Tenner says if you hadn't told him anything he would not have noticed it.
KingNosser
Well-known member
I personally don't have issue with fake frames, but if I was playing something online in any fps I wouldn't use it myself due to the latency the latency would be my issue and while they can reduce it it matters in things like fps games far more so than a single player or co-op game etc.
So like anything I feel it's situational and personal choice, I still think it's all too early to really say it's finished as a tech just yet in truth the very beginning for any of the new dip switches in drivers.
The key thing is when it's built into the drivers and works it works very well, this is where I do feel come Q1 Nvidia need this in total across the board with optimised training afterwards, as AMD will have a huge selling point with HypR RX as if it works correctly the boost in games is huge across decades of games.
So like anything I feel it's situational and personal choice, I still think it's all too early to really say it's finished as a tech just yet in truth the very beginning for any of the new dip switches in drivers.
The key thing is when it's built into the drivers and works it works very well, this is where I do feel come Q1 Nvidia need this in total across the board with optimised training afterwards, as AMD will have a huge selling point with HypR RX as if it works correctly the boost in games is huge across decades of games.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Of course dude. Why would you bother with games when you can sell two lumps of the exact same silicon for $35k? No one would ever be that silly.
This, to me? pretty much says it all.
They have even edited their own Wiki page.
It was also revealed recently by Rich Leadbetter, who outright asked Bethesda why DLSS was not in Starfield. Their response? "Nvidia have not approached us". Sure enough, after all of the finger pointing and blaming AMD? Nvidia finally got in touch with Bethesda and now it is coming.
It has also been said that Nvidia are cutting driver investment on gaming and so on. Which again, makes complete sense, when you can have that same team providing support for $35k AI GPUs.
Personally I think that the future of PC gaming now lies in the hands of AMD and Intel. Who will have to duke it out. Nvidia just seem to be completely uninterested, which again makes sense. They have delayed the 5000 series by a whole year, which again speaks volumes.
Aren't Nvidia big enough to have their fingers in many pies? I don't see why they can't invest heavily in all areas of graphics. The data center has been their most profitable income for many years, yet they haven't left the gaming market. I don't see how a change in what Wiki says is any indicator of them exiting the market. Nvidia don't have to promote their leadership in the gaming market in their 'general promo' when their biggest clients are the data center. Same goes for automotive and professional visualisation. I imagine their shift in promotional taglines is just that, tactical promotion.
KingNosser
Well-known member
They can do as they like same as any company.
However they are losing the gaming market extremely slowly right now, but them 5000 series cards if people don't like the value and prices now well wait until then as 3nm node costs per wafer are a fair chunk higher, So nvidia has a choice smaller dies at the same price with little performance gain or same size die with large gain at a much higher cost.
I expect higher cost all round and cut down dies from the AI card varients sold at the price they really want, so long as AI grows nvidia right now do not care.
I don't blame them like all company's it's for profit, all of them are going to invest heavily into AI, just means that in time Intel and AMD are the general gaming option for the masses.
So maybe the 5090 will be a big card and also the 5080, but what would you expect from the rest of the stack down, me small chips slight boosts and same prices if not higher due to the node cost, but gddr7 will help them cost cut in different ways.
However they are losing the gaming market extremely slowly right now, but them 5000 series cards if people don't like the value and prices now well wait until then as 3nm node costs per wafer are a fair chunk higher, So nvidia has a choice smaller dies at the same price with little performance gain or same size die with large gain at a much higher cost.
I expect higher cost all round and cut down dies from the AI card varients sold at the price they really want, so long as AI grows nvidia right now do not care.
I don't blame them like all company's it's for profit, all of them are going to invest heavily into AI, just means that in time Intel and AMD are the general gaming option for the masses.
So maybe the 5090 will be a big card and also the 5080, but what would you expect from the rest of the stack down, me small chips slight boosts and same prices if not higher due to the node cost, but gddr7 will help them cost cut in different ways.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
In response to the gaming stuff, I think as they have the gaming segment pretty much locked down for the moment they are capitalizing on getting as many AI focused customers as possible which they need if they want to get even bigger. As long as they release game ready drivers with optimizations and keep getting their tech into games I don't see a problem.
