High Temp readings on Gigabyte motherboard?

[jiffz]

Hey guys I need to ask you a question before I start clocking my machine! Take it easy on me guys because I'm guaranteed to say something wrong! :stickpoke:

Ok here goes - I have a Gigabyte GA-7N400-L motherboard with nforce 2 chipset. I've heard that the temperature readings on these motherboards are higher than usual (I've heard a rumor that it reads from the very hottest part of the chip?).

I've got an 80mm fan on the front of the case drawing in air and 1 on the back extracting, also the PSU has 2 fans on it extracing heat. While idle Everest reads that the cpu is 52 °C (126 °F) and GPU (which I am fairly certain is my graphics card) 51 °C (124 °F). Both go close to 60 °C when playing CS: Source. I also have stock cooling on chip and my 6600gt BTW, which I am looking to change!

Surely this is too high? I have also taken a screenshot of the idle sensor readings from Everest. Could you guys shed some light on this please? Thanks guys, much appreciated!

 

[limqareb]

i think that the temps of the gpu are quite correcct afaik, for the cpu well yo0u should wee to do something about it i doubt whete idle 52 , mine is stock speed and fan , idle 35 , load 46 so hmm quite high for not an oced machine

EDIT why is your vcore 1.68

 

[FarFarAway]

Yeah that vcore is mass high mate: wanna sort that out to what its sposed to be first off

 

[Dav0s]

temps seem faesible jiffz.

yep vcore is high, but can you check it for us in BIOS b4 we assume please

 

[FarFarAway]

temps seem faesible jiffz.

yep vcore is high, but can you check it for us in BIOS b4 we assume please

Temps seem a bit high having had an XP system myself. I think maybe a sensor put into place may be a good idea

 

[NickS]

Mate, use Giga-Byte EasyTune 5. It ownz all other temp reading proggy's I have EVER came across. It friggin RAPES DFI's and MSI's software.

Linkage: http://www.giga-byte.com/Download/D...Board/FileList/Driver/driver_gbttools_gbt_et5

 

[jiffz]

Cheers Nick! I was using this tool before but I lost it!!! I dunno bout the voltage stuff guys. I don't think I've touched it :eh:

 

[NickS]

Np mate. I'm a Giga-Byte guru. Contact me if you need help w/anything . They're real great board's.

 

[jiffz]

But I really cannot see why the hell my system would be this hot! When I put in the 2 fans it only moved around 3-4°C. I just think the sensors are off and I've heard they are up to 20 °C above what they supposed to be! So that would make sense to me that it's idle at around 30°C and the cooling couldn't do much.

Does dust cause a big problem to heating? I say this bcuz the heatsink on the chip is lookin a bit dusty. Any ideas for a good cooling system for the chip? Looking to spend about £20. I'm tempted to get an exhaust blower think for the 6600gt too, cuz I know the standard nvidia cooling is crap!

I've added a screenie (lovin the pimpin Bender background) of the Easy Tune heat stuff, so you canhave a different look at the voltages. I have no clue about voltages so could ya help me out with that? Thanks!!!

 

[RollerCam540]

Hey guys I need to ask you a question before I start clocking my machine! Take it easy on me guys because I'm guaranteed to say something wrong! :stickpoke:

There are no stupid questions

Ok here goes - I have a Gigabyte GA-7N400-L motherboard with nforce 2 chipset. I've heard that the temperature readings on these motherboards are higher than usual (I've heard a rumor that it reads from the very hottest part of the chip?).

Technically, you can't trust the processor temperature diode on any board. If you want accuracy then you need a digital multimeter.

I've got an 80mm fan on the front of the case drawing in air and 1 on the back extracting, also the PSU has 2 fans on it extracing heat.

Never count your PSU fans, they are there to keep the PSU cool, not the case. If you're wondering why the PSU needs fans, I'll tell you: most PSU's (with the exception of high end PSU's), most PSU's output two thirds of their total power when hot, meaning, you're missing a third of your PSU's power.

While idle Everest reads that the cpu is 52 °C (126 °F) and GPU (which I am fairly certain is my graphics card) 51 °C (124 °F). Both go close to 60 °C when playing CS: Source. I also have stock cooling on chip and my 6600gt BTW, which I am looking to change!

Your temperatures are exactly where they need to be. The AMD XP processor supports a maximum die temperature of 85 degrees celsius. AMD XP WhitePapers

With a stock heatsink (or a comparable aftermarket HSF) coupled with stock VCore (1.65v) your temperature reading of 65 degrees celsius sounds exactly right! You can raise your VCore higher but there's a thermal throttling diode on the motherboard that shuts off the computer in the event of a drastic raise in temperature. If you want to play with the VCore get a Swiftech MCX462-V HSF. That's about the best you can do for your money. Make sure you buy a fan that sucks air through the HSF... blowing air through the HSF is a bad move.

In case you're wondering, I wouldn't flirt anymore with the VCore if your peaking at 70C under load.

Surely this is too high? I have also taken a screenshot of the idle sensor readings from Everest. Could you guys shed some light on this please? Thanks guys, much appreciated!

Use Speedfan

i think that the temps of the gpu are quite correcct afaik, for the cpu well yo0u should wee to do something about it i doubt whete idle 52 , mine is stock speed and fan , idle 35 , load 46 so hmm quite high for not an oced machine

EDIT why is your vcore 1.68

The stock VCore for an Athlon XP CPU is 1.65. My XP Barton idles at 48C with a MCX462-V and peaks at 55C. My stock HSF and crappy aftermarket HSF peaked at 62-65C. I bought my crappy HSF after reading a review about it in tomshardwareguide. You can't beat the Swiftech HSF. Thermalright has an SP97 and SI97 (impossible to find) and an XP90, XP120. I'm not sure how the latter two perform but I can totally vouch for switftech's HSF and it's not all that expensive.

 

[NickS]

Christ Mate Your Vcore Is 1.71!!! Lower It In The Bios To 1.6v Asap!!!

 

[bloodthirst]

well with my past experience with gigabyte motherboards and athlon XP's, gigabyte seem to have a higher stock Vcore than any other

 

[Dav0s]

you know how to reset cmos jiffz? i suggest you do it, then start clocking again from the beginning

 

[jiffz]

The thing is I havn't clocked anything!!!

 

[Dav0s]

do as i say damn it lol

me being bossy again ^

 

[jiffz]

:awhip: U love tellin me what to do! I'm gona order u a quiet russian bride that you can morph into a slave - forfill your need of dominance! Cuz it ain't workin on me :banghead: :rotfl:

I don't understand what lowering the voltages will achieve. Am I currently straining anything by leaving it on the current setting? BTW a little while back I found my FSB had gone to 100, I think this was caused by a pretty nasty crash. So wouldn't that mean the voltages would be at default/safest setting?

Oh and thanks for your input Rollercam. You answered a few questions I needed to know. I knew about the PSU really! The heatsink you mentioned is way too expensive for what it is. Nearly as costly as my chip!

 

[Dav0s]

stock voltage = 1.XX

cpu runs fine stock speed stock voltage at good temps

ur voltage - 1.68

this is above stock voltage and is unecessary as cpu is at stock, so doesnt need extra power, its just creating heat for no reason

 

[jiffz]

Sorry but I dont get what u mean by 1.XX :eh: To me that means it can be anything?? Such as 1.88, 1.05 etc

What if I were to put the FSB up from 166 to 200, and see how it goes. That way it'll actually use the extra power. I noticed earlier as soon as I turned the pc on the CPU was 44 C. This is not room temperature so doesn't tha prove it is over stating the temp??

 

[FragTek]

It means he's unsure of the exact stock voltage the processor runs at... it should be around 1.4-1.5 I would guess. :eh:

 

[Dav0s]

Sorry but I dont get what u mean by 1.XX :eh: To me that means it can be anything?? Such as 1.88, 1.05 etc

exactly!! i dont actually knwo the default voltage of ur cpu (ask kempm, he is stato with these things) so i put 1.XX. Either way i know it is less than 1.68.

What if I were to put the FSB up from 166 to 200, and see how it goes. That way it'll actually use the extra power. I noticed earlier as soon as I turned the pc on the CPU was 44 C. This is not room temperature so doesn't tha prove it is over stating the temp??

could work, but depends if the purpose of your questions is to reduce temps, or feel better about the high temps. (excuse that sentence, it was rather philisophical)