High speed ram problems

[Larocka]

Hello, I was wondering if I could receive some help with troubleshooting my ram (I'm really new to this, so if it's user error please, yell at me) I recently built a pc for a relative as a workstation for him, due to the demands of his job, I went with 2 8gb sticks of G.Skill Ripjaws X ddr3 2133 ram. The motherboard is compatible with ram of this level, as is the psu. Unfortunately, the pc is Crashing often under heavy load. (BSOD) I also ran memtest and noticed that I was getting a lot of errors in test 7 and 9. I have images of the results as well as the Bios settings if need be. I DID change the ram speed in the bios to 2133, and when I went to default memtest showed no errors. Is this possibly bad ram or something worse? If need be I can replace the ram easily, but the motherboard could be a bit annoying.

Any help is appreciated and If you have any questions, please ask me.

 

[Mark3Max]

Please post the specs of the system , what motherboard are you using?

 

[Larocka]

i7 3770k (no oc yet, want the pc to be stable first
asrock extreme3
G.SKILL ripjaw x (2 sticks of 8gb ddr3 2133)
Evga 660ti

If you would like pictures of my bios settings, please ask. (they are not stock settings, I set the ram to be 2133 in the bios as it didn't do that by default, when I set it to default it is stable according to memtest 86)

 

[Larocka]

I still need help, If anybody can, please let me know.

 

[theDTP]

Could be your CPU, silicone lottery and all that. My PC won't even boot at 2133MHz but I can overclock this CPU to 5.1GHz. Where as my friend with the same CPU can run my ram at 2133MHz+ stable but his chip won't go past 4.5GHz.

Remember, these CPUs are rated for 1333/1600MHz ram. Anything above is a bonus.

Try more volts on the ram, CPU or both. Maybe loosen the timings on the ram. If you are unsure, read some overclocking guides ^_^

 

[Larocka]

Could be your CPU, silicone lottery and all that. My PC won't even boot at 2133MHz but I can overclock this CPU to 5.1GHz. Where as my friend with the same CPU can run my ram at 2133MHz+ stable but his chip won't go past 4.5GHz.

Remember, these CPUs are rated for 1333/1600MHz ram. Anything above is a bonus.

Try more volts on the ram, CPU or both. Maybe loosen the timings on the ram. If you are unsure, read some overclocking guides ^_^

Well, I don't have a very good cooler on the cpu (Hyper 212 evo) So I don't want to crank it up too far, we actually do need this faster ram to work, the workstation is loading massive amounts of high quality images (hundreds, daily) on a regular basis, and since the ram speed wen't lower, he's been complaining of slower speeds when doing that.

How high should I try to overclock it? I really don't want to go too far, But I feel like 4ghz might not be too much trouble, I also don't want to overvolt much either, But if it proves necessary, I will.

I feel like if I oc it, it may become more difficult to prove what component is faulty, If it is the ram, wouldn't overclocking prove nothing?

 

[TonyTBR]

I would say the same, try some more volts, loosen the timings, see if that does the trick, if not try to replace the RAM, and if with new 2133 RAM it still doesn't work, then go for lower speed RAM

 

[TonyTBR]

Well, I don't have a very good cooler on the cpu (Hyper 212 evo) So I don't want to crank it up too far, we actually do need this faster ram to work, the workstation is loading massive amounts of high quality images (hundreds, daily) on a regular basis, and since the ram speed wen't lower, he's been complaining of slower speeds when doing that.

How high should I try to overclock it? I really don't want to go too far, But I feel like 4ghz might not be too much trouble, I also don't want to overvolt much either, But if it proves necessary, I will.

I feel like if I oc it, it may become more difficult to prove what component is faulty, If it is the ram, wouldn't overclocking prove nothing?

Hyper 212 is a decent cooler, it would be able to handle 4ghz easily, as long as there is good airflow in the case, if you overclock the cpu and it still doesn't work then try to replace the RAM, that way if you get new RAM and it works fine you know it was the RAM, but if it still persists then you will know it is something else like not enough vaults, or simply the CPU can not handle it!

Hope this helps

 

[Larocka]

Ok, one last question (im sorry if i come off as a complete idiot) Is there any reason that the ram would run at 2133 until about the end of the day, after a long day's work, then blue-screen? I honestly know nothing about how ram works, really, But it seems to me that if it survives 12 hours under the prime95 torture test, it would be stable.

Thanks, I also am considering replacing the stock fan on the hyper 212 to 2 corsair sps in push-pull (I need to check on the fan size for the 212, it's been a while)

 

[TonyTBR]

Ok, one last question (im sorry if i come off as a complete idiot) Is there any reason that the ram would run at 2133 until about the end of the day, after a long day's work, then blue-screen? I honestly know nothing about how ram works, really, But it seems to me that if it survives 12 hours under the prime95 torture test, it would be stable.

Are you sure that it is the RAM that is causing the blue screen, because to me if it survives 12 hours of prime95, its not then just going to go, its either faulty RAM or not the ram, check that the RAM is running at 11-11-11-30 latency and that the vaults are between 1.5v -1.6v, if they are not then change it, if they are and the problem persists as i said earlier replace the RAM, other than that it could be the cpu, make sure that's not running to hot, and if the RAM still doesn't work try testing it on another motherboard if you can and see if you get the same problem.

 

[Mark3Max]

I'm still a bit of a newbie on memory , but are you sure the memory is compatible with that motherboard?
According to the specs on that board 1866 and above are overclocked.
How did you setup the memory? Manually or XMP ?
And make sure you have them in the right slots.

 

[theDTP]

I use to have the 212 evo with SP120s and I can confirm they fit and work very nice. Try and get your hands on some more ram and see how that works for a few days, alternatively you could just go ahead and try more volts on the ram and a little on the cpu, 1.65v maximum for the ram, just go up a little at a time until you stop BSOD (not benchmark BSOD) and if this doesn't fix your problem then try to loosen the timings a little and remember, the memory controller on this CPU is rated at 1600MHz and any more is considered an overclock. I could go and buy some 2800MHz ram but on my CPU it's already proven to me that the most it will be stable at is 1866MHz, just because your ram is rated at 2133MHz this does not mean your CPU will be able to use it. Just persevere and try what has been said and good luck, also have fun


As for prime95, people have tested for much longer than 12 hours and BSOD opening a new browser tab.

If you need help with changing volts and timings there will be something on this forum, I can't direct you just yet as I am on my phone.

 

[theDTP]

Try new ram, I just got a z87 motherboard and 4670K and while I was there I bought 16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro. Just tested the Corsair Vengeance Pro in my current rig (not fitting the new mobo and CPU until Sunday) and good lord it booted 2133MHz instantly! I recommend trying new ram, I've been running on faulty ram for over 12 months!

 

[johnnyme]

so far i just sold my old asrock and replace it for new version of Hi-Fi A55S3 ver. 6.1 thats biostar.. speed is literally fine and well progression! =)

 

[Larocka]

Ok, so I decided to take a gamble and try new ram, some of that new corsair vengence ram 2133 (16 gb) works fine, got the old ram replaced under warranty.

so it was the ram, thanks for your help guys.

 

[theDTP]

Ok, so I decided to take a gamble and try new ram, some of that new corsair vengence ram 2133 (16 gb) works fine, got the old ram replaced under warranty.

so it was the ram, thanks for your help guys.

This is good news! Glad it was only the ram that was the problem and that you have your old stuff replaced ^_^