Heat issues (kamikaasie)

[monkey7]

but my pc case is very cool but noisy

2x 25cm front and side

2x 12 cm out back and psu

fan set on memory dominator

zalman copper on processor

if i say temps 67 and 71 fullload hd2900xt crossfire,1 had an artic cooling triplefan (standard 2 heatpipes was first type was to hot to), that was 67 but the fans almost never go rotate only auto at 70 degrees,other was a new type standard with 3 heatpipes-15degrees less then 1th in begin, so i think you can see my case is very cool for that card i think.

but something is right here its an open cooler also, so not all heat go out, also a lot heat come in pc case, they claim its produced so it go out, but it always will go out ofcourse ;-)

so thats the point for now all run hot on idle because fan go to slow,under 1000 on start point, but when go to power mode its also very loud .and it also blow lot VERY HOT AIR in the pc case.

so my opinion , the cooler looks greater then the funtion it have.

maybe they look to much to try win performance but better win in less power and less heat also .

so for my opinion i think the cooler vapor-x as better cooling isnt a well done job.

also not the noise from the fan , thats also more at 40% then the xfx4870 s in crossfire on 60%

my card is 53 degrees now stock but the memory is 64 , so your temps indication are right if not look at the memory

my temps are ok then but memory go 10a15 higher look in everest it gave 3 temps 53gpu 64mem 51environment

also the clocks of memory not go back in idle mode only core go to 240.

So if I understand you correctly, you have this:

Golden rule of air cooling is always have more outtake than intake. So I'd suggest trying to turn around the 25mm side panel cooler and see if it decreases temperatures. It looks like the air is trapped between and under the cards, creating 'hotspots' which are also associated with having more intake than outtake.

 

[Rastalovich]

Yeah there looks like some in-out issues. There has to be some kind of balance either from fan speeds or air flow per/s.

U can have the biggest fans in the world blowing in - but if the air isn't allow out, the pressure will be enormous.

 

[kamikaasie]

Hi all ;-)

its not needed make new forum,i was not offtopic , and not have heat issues, its about the vapor-x having an heat issue and not do his job ,but you already did so thanks anyway.

my case is an A+ Case Twin Engine / XCLIO A380

can not adds link to noobie ;-)

must see so, the front fan is more to cool the harddisks and on the underside of the front is big gap (to reduce noise) so it will not blow so much in ,the overload air go down ,so its nm if set fast or low only/mostly for the harddisks cooling,

so the side fan do the work for the motherboard parts and the 2x 12 flow out enough air for both big fans.

but you have a point for under flow out , but like mostly there is no place to make an fan there, so this case is created to have close back output cards.

but my 2900xt was with the artic triple cooler 67 max(most had 90 degrees to with this cards) and the 3 fans almost never go round because its needed to set a fan tool (or on 70degrees) and set the fans higher, but that was not needed.

i must say its hugh but did great job, but with 2 cards was just 1a2mm between cards., artic on top, so the side did the job also good, and the second card was rear output so that blow his air out.

so i need buy 1 4890 more that blow out air in back at bottom, or new pc case , or another cooler, thats saying to me not well job for the vapor-x that claim have better cooling and less noise.

but my opinion is: if want have better cooling with vapor-x you have much noise, if want have less noise have hotttt cards.

i am not a big overclocker and do not know much about it instead of most of you guys

but for me is heat nr1 important after power , because if buy top card it will mostly do his job on power parts

they did say hd2900xt was a hottie and after it was a flop, yeah a hugh megaflop producer (powerrrrr lol) but the first new card it could realy beat it was 3870x2 , also temp where cool for my case, also in crossfire

so if testing graphic topcards that always run hot, its a need for all people to know what it do in a case and when the case is closed,( but i understand it cost big time if do all that change all times, for testing ;-)) also of course its here about a apart kind of cooling called Vapor-x thats be testing, because the temps say what can do with it. for more overclocking, so this card runs in closed case very hot and do same job as the closed ones.on both (vapor-x and rear output cards) if set fan 70% to max its much noise but cooling is okay, so its a matter for people to know its not do his job quiet and cool, if not have the good case for it, so maybe its a need to have a case with the psu at bottom, or if can place fans there to flow air out. ;-)

greetz all tc ;-)

 

[kamikaasie]

kaasie update

hi all ;-)

i tried something this days to make the pc's airflow better, so tried make the 4890 vapor-X card cooler in idle mode/power mode

i tried rotate the fan on side plate ,so it blow out the air, but that realy didnt much matter for the vapor-x

only my processor and motherboard get hotter then 3 to 5deg.

i did take the big fan out ( it realy not give so much air) and replace it with 2 fans 12cm and 8 cm .

i tried 8cm fan flow in/out under and 12cm fan out/in above it

also 12 under 8 above it in and out, only 12 and only 8 flowing in and out,

it all realy not make a different

i tried set and 8cm fan on backside under graphiccard (just outside under the cable) , i have 3 ports open there, also that was not helping.

also just with open case all be hotter some degrees, and little homefan tru it then it down a little.

so lets say my case will not do the work to keep/make the vapor-x cooler ;-)

 

[kamikaasie]

did buy an 2gb now and crossfire them

hi

i did buy a new vapor-x 2gb now and same story with the temps.

its so it have an extra coolblock on on the backplate side from memory.

so the processor should make it more cool also now.

i put them in crossfire now to see what happen but of course it crashing overtimes with fans on 100% and open case.

i play on 5040x1050 so its ofcourse will more heated then normal with that resolution.

i did write to sapphire to ask how and what and tell my story and ask if its possible get 2 reference coolers for it, i will send the vapor-x koeler back with smile on my face.

i did buy an artic Twin Turbo and Scythe Musashi but that 2 not fit on a vapor-x .f want leave the back coolblock on it, and Scythe Musashiwill hit the dvi output with an heatpipe,

so buy now a zalman gv1000 and that will fit good , but in crossfire can only use 1 bridge , or need longer one because it hit the heatpipe , and that will be very hot.

this are temp with 2gb on top and the 1gb with the zalman gv1000 under it.

23 degrees home temp disp=85deg mem = 112 deg shader =96 deg.for the 2gb on top with 100% fan on and fulload (crysis)4400 rpm.

for the 1gb now this are the temps with 3500rpm )(100%)

disp =66deg mem 77deg shader= 63deg.

i change them to but it was not much different , so 1gb up and 2 gb down

in idle mode with case open and 100% fans the temps are (23 home temp)

in crossfire.

2gb = disp 54 deg mem 76 deg shader 60 deg

1gb = disp 50deg mem 58deg shader 48 deg

of course they run now both in 1gb mode , i tried this one to see if better then should sell the 1gb and buy another 2gb.

so for me its not cool any way and crashes much .

i did set an home fan 12cm fan in front of the cards, we use for the kithen in a window its loud and blowing alot air .

de 2gb will go down around 8 a 10 deg then and the 1gb 5a7deg down.

this also with open case, but then atleast i not crashing in my games.

so i not know how and what but for me realy nothing work to make vapor-x cooler then this, with my case closed it will not work . with case just only open also no good work. with fan blowing on it it also just be hot mem around 100deg. that with fan 100 %. so i will buy other cooler also for the 2gb version .

this realy sucks

greetz kaasie