Gaming industry forever destroyed

The way I see it is the "RealMoney" Auction house will be quite expensive at first. Later on, the more "dedicated" and "farming" players will crash the house and prices will plummet and players will be acquiring equipment that is great for their level. Blizzard will take their common sense in hand and take down that "RealMoney" market...

EDIT: I don't know if you understand what I am saying, please someone translate
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one game does not an industry make Blizzard is out for their wallet and their wallet only but yeah kinda takes the fun out of a game when the only way to get good shite is to buy it with real money
 
So ActiBlizz are turning into ebay now?

I don't care how many times Blizz say that they are independent from Activision,This sounds like something from the mind of a certain "Mr. Kotick"
 
This is highly crazy, and yet I'm not that suprised.

Many moons ago, when online rpgs (mostly korean based) relied on a player's ability, persistance, and team work, and presented real challenges, selling/buying ANYTHING was not only frowned upon, but if could be "proven" would lead to bans etc etc.

WoW came along, and although I respect how they dev'd the game and made it appealling to the masses of non-mmorpg players at the time (your grandmother would suddenly be playing), it totally drained the life out of the challenging aspect of mmorpgs. But you do have to respect the cute, money targeted, appeal to get as many customers as possible. (you want to kill something, you select it... wtf!?!)

Even so, buying and selling irl was still frowned upon.

Now it seems as if they've gone full circle in attitude in a sort of "if you can't beat em, join em" way, and make cash ourselves along the way.

Another example of money squeazing the life out of the industry ?
 
Sadly it's the way of the world now. We've had a good few discussions recently about how it's just about money now, with the gameplay and VFM being a complete afterthought.

When I was young (niiiii mothballs and pee) coders made games as a hobby. Many of the games out on the market were made by hobbyist coders doing it from passion to make a game they wanted to see. They could then be had really cheaply, some of the Mastertronic games were like, £1.99. These were simply games that they had produced for hobbyist coders. Some of them were bloody brill though !

As time went on the boundaries were being pushed left right and center. New ideas, new level designs and so on. Even some really whacky games that were just awesome.. Wheelie comes to mind. A platform game with you on a motorbike doing awesome stunts lol.

Sadly as gaming began to bring in the cash the corporations stood up and took note. Companies like Atari and Activision were bought out by corporations who then used them as milking machines. Games are becoming worse whilst prices rise. New ideas being put into games now are not there for out pleasure, but there to make more money from the game. I refuse to buy any Activision EA or Atari games now. Simply as they are just cash ins. Activision milked Tony Hawk for every penny they could until they completely destroyed the franchise, then found another killer app. They now have Call of duty as their main tit, and will pull on it until they absolutely destroy the series.

The problem is that people have fallen for it left right and center. The money they use to promote and push these games is just crazy, but people buy into it like sheep. See also - Apple Ipod/pad/phone. They just seem to have this hold over people where they must rush out and get the newest model. You can safely add GPU manus to that too.

It really upset me when Duke Forever got slated and compared to COD. That was just really insulting. Duke had soul in the game, and years and years of development. And you could feel it, if you knew what you were looking for. Most of the COD crowd loaded it up and said "Graphics are sh** what a sh** game !" and "COD is much better !".

But they missed the boat completely. Duke is FUN. All the way through I was cracking up. The jokes and humour are never ending.Yet, Activision have just pushed belligerence onto the public now and Duke is apparently old and not funny at all.
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EA have got hold of Battlefield now. And no doubt they will get a hold on DICE's balls and squeeze as hard as they can until the ballsack is empty, before moving onto another "killer app cash cow".
 
It's funny because you're all acting like they're making you do this, as always. You do NOT need to buy items from the AH to get them, you can simply MF them. The AH is just a way for them to control outside websites from making money, like they did with D2.
 
It's funny because you're all acting like they're making you do this, as always. You do NOT need to buy items from the AH to get them, you can simply MF them. The AH is just a way for them to control outside websites from making money, like they did with D2.

But it still has an effect on the game as a whole...
 
But it still has an effect on the game as a whole...

Tell me how? This is your logic right now. "I think it's fair that instead of Blizzard getting money for people selling items over THEIR game, gold farmers should be the ones to make the money"

Nice logic guys. Instead of supporting a great company, lets support some gold farmers. Oh and FYI, you're not there to make money, you're there to enjoy the game.
 
"Endzy", lvl21 wizzard, based and leveled on purely ingame stuff.

Gets flattened everytime ingame, in pve & pvp cos everyone around him is buying stuff.

Lvl10 "AdrianD2" spanks him cos of his "HP+1000, MP+500, Damage+500%, Speed+200%, Go Eff Yourself Ring" he bought for £50.
 
Tell me how? This is your logic right now. "I think it's fair that instead of Blizzard getting money for people selling items over THEIR game, gold farmers should be the ones to make the money"

Nice logic guys. Instead of supporting a great company, lets support some gold farmers. Oh and FYI, you're not there to make money, you're there to enjoy the game.

First of all, the first person to get the best pice of gear in the game will flat out own everybody in pvp, and secondly if ActiBlizz makes enough money out of this, other companies are going to do the same thing and we will see this more and more
 
Items for sale in the AH (there will be two AH...real money and a normal AH) have to be found first. Blizz won't be putting items in there, the players will be. I see nothing wrong with this system and it won't create overpowered characters. I never bought a thing on D2 and I was a top player. Only items I had were items I found or traded for. I much prefer a trade system compared to buying items with real money or ingame gold. "2 soj for perf shako"
 
LOL. I hope EA doesn't screw BF3. Oh, yeah, I HATE BOBBY KOTICK.

just seems like he'd think of ($15 CoD map packs, now this?)

License to print money = Kotick's dream

Edit: Anybody remember W@W? Awesome base game + $10 map packs (4 MP maps, 1 zombie map)
 
"Endzy", lvl21 wizzard, based and leveled on purely ingame stuff.

Gets flattened everytime ingame, in pve & pvp cos everyone around him is buying stuff.

Lvl10 "AdrianD2" spanks him cos of his "HP+1000, MP+500, Damage+500%, Speed+200%, Go Eff Yourself Ring" he bought for £50.

http://www.d2craft.com/

http://d2items.com/#

http://www.d2supplies.com/

http://lewt.com/diablo-2/#

http://www.jpitems.com/

http://www.d2sale.com/

These are all websites where you are able to purchase items for real money. Basic gear has never been hard to achieve in Diablo. You will find players don't even really care about gear until they reach a higher level, say 85+. Also, explain to me how someone gets "beaten" in PvE by another character? I thought the whole point of PvE was to work together... oh wait, it is! Gear is gear, stop whinging. If you didn't take the D2 ladder system seriously I don't see why you'll give a shit about PvP in D3.

Good to see Hmmblah actually has a clue what he's talking about, and experience with the game. None of you obviously do, so stop making comments on it and acting like there is going to be imbalance issues.
 
It's about a game developer legalising this crap... it's like if you have money you can be the president of the US. "herp it's a game derp" Ya i know but this is so stupid, and blizzard is obviouusly doing this for money, it costs to list an item, then it costs if it gets sold, and then they charge you again if you withdraw the money you have aquired using this auction house

EDIT: Endzy you were probably allright with EA giving you special pre-order items for BF3 that couldn't be aquired in any other way? If i recall correctly one of the items they said were essential for sniping or something
 
It's about a game developer legalising this crap... it's like if you have money you can be the president of the US. "herp it's a game derp" Ya i know but this is so stupid, and blizzard is obviouusly doing this for money, it costs to list an item, then it costs if it gets sold, and then they charge you again if you withdraw the money you have aquired using this auction house

EDIT: Endzy you were probably allright with EA giving you special pre-order items for BF3 that couldn't be aquired in any other way? If i recall correctly one of the items they said were essential for sniping or something

You're basically saying it's stupid of them to legalise a service to allow you to get money from a game. That makes a lot of sense. If you ran a company, and third party websites were making money off your game, you're trying to tell me that you'd just let them? Rather then getting money via these websites, Blizzard are just allowing you, the player, to pay them instead AND to sell your own items for money. This isn't an arguement. You seriously don't realise how narrow minded and flawed your arguement is. If you want, I can go into a very well detailed post when I get home from uni.

EDIT: Thanks for reminding me I needed to pre-order BF3
 
http://www.d2craft.com/

http://d2items.com/#

http://www.d2supplies.com/

http://lewt.com/diablo-2/#

http://www.jpitems.com/

http://www.d2sale.com/

These are all websites where you are able to purchase items for real money. Basic gear has never been hard to achieve in Diablo. You will find players don't even really care about gear until they reach a higher level, say 85+. Also, explain to me how someone gets "beaten" in PvE by another character? I thought the whole point of PvE was to work together... oh wait, it is! Gear is gear, stop whinging. If you didn't take the D2 ladder system seriously I don't see why you'll give a shit about PvP in D3.

Good to see Hmmblah actually has a clue what he's talking about, and experience with the game. None of you obviously do, so stop making comments on it and acting like there is going to be imbalance issues.

You're ranting about no one knowing anything about D2 other than yourself, whereas I'm basing my argument on all mmorpg. It sounds like a person who's been playing WoW for years and nobody but themselves know anything about the game and nothing outside of it exists.

In games outside of D2, cos there are one or two, pve isn't all about groups and working together, it can be multiple groups who are in competition with each other, and it can be favorable to get the opposing groups killed by redirecting mobs agrovation. Also you will get areas that are deemed for groups due to their difficulty where more experienced players will do solo.

I stand by the reasoning that it's a sad state of affairs that the companies/publishers have decided to make further cash off the players cos they can't do anything about existing "cheating" agents. An "if you can't beat em, join em" attitude to taxing gameplay, in addition to initial purchases of the software delivery and subscriptions is poor form, imo.
 
You're ranting about no one knowing anything about D2 other than yourself, whereas I'm basing my argument on all mmorpg. It sounds like a person who's been playing WoW for years and nobody but themselves know anything about the game and nothing outside of it exists.

In games outside of D2, cos there are one or two, pve isn't all about groups and working together, it can be multiple groups who are in competition with each other, and it can be favorable to get the opposing groups killed by redirecting mobs agrovation. Also you will get areas that are deemed for groups due to their difficulty where more experienced players will do solo.

I stand by the reasoning that it's a sad state of affairs that the companies/publishers have decided to make further cash off the players cos they can't do anything about existing "cheating" agents. An "if you can't beat em, join em" attitude to taxing gameplay, in addition to initial purchases of the software delivery and subscriptions is poor form, imo.

For one, Diablo isn't an MMO. I never said nothing outside of Diablo exists, but you're just stating stupid things to help your arguement. I'm done with this discussion, because you can't even understand how utterly stupid your points are. There isn't an aggro system in Diablo, it's a hack and slash. You left and right click, things die. You don't even know how the game works, or how gear affects it, yet you have the balls to comment on a system that's been implemented, that any core Diablo player will say is a fantastic idea. The amount of times I've had countless items drop that I can't use, nor have any use for, and just sold to a vendor, and now I can sell them to other people and make more profit? That sounds like a great idea.

They aren't telling you to subscribe, it's your choice. If you don't want to do it, then go ahead, don't. You just all sound like a bunch of people that are trying to find something to whinge about, considering you actually don't have a clue about the game, or how the economy/gear system actually runs.

FYI, there aren't areas that you need to group for. The whole game can be completed solo.
 
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