First time water cooling

[greim]

Hi, this is my first liquid cooled build so i would like some advice on my choice.

First off here are some specs on my machine:
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 Military Green
MB: MSI Big Bang-XPower II
CPU: 3930K
GPU: MSI 680 Lightning
Ram: Crucial BallistiX Tactical Tracer 8GB KIT x2

And for the cooling here are the specs:
Fans: Silverstone Air Penetrator 120MM White x6
Fittings: Koolance 13/10mm (ID 3/8" OD 1/2") Black x10 and reducing socket G1/2 to G1/4 inner thread - knurled - black nickel plated x2
CPU block: EK Water Blocks EK-Supremacy - Nickel
GPU block: EK Water Blocks EK-FC680 GTX CSQ - Nickel
Rad: EK Water Blocks EK-CoolStream RAD XT 360
Tube: Primochill Slang PrimoFlex Pro 13/10 (3/8"ID) x6 meters
Coolant: PrimoChill ICE Non-Conductive Water Cooling Coolant (32 oz.)- Black/UV blue 944ml
Thermal paste: Innovation Cooling Diamond 24 Carat - 4,8g
Reservoir: Aquacomputer aquatube G1/4" Delrin Black
Pump: Laing 12V D5-Vario 1/2 AG

Here is a picture that shows how i would set up the loop.

And now for the questions:
1. Will it be sufficient whit only the 360 rad, or should i go for another 240 for the gpu?
2. Is there a better way to route the loop? And if I would get another 240 rad, how should i rout the loop?
3. Are any of these components known to have problems? Are there better any alternatives?
4. If anyone here has a c70 case, is there enough space at the top for a 360 rad and push-pull configuration without interfering with the heat pipes on the motherboard?
5. Do i miss anything, like fittings or somthing?

I'm form norway so i'm sorry for my bad grammar :/
The sites i'm going to buy from are aquatuning.no and komplett.no

Thank you in advance for any help you guys may provide

 

[jamesriley94]

You're never going to get a 40mm thick rad with push pull fans in a C70...
Highly doubt you'd get it in with a single set of fans either tbh...

This needs a massive rethink - Have you already bought all the parts?

And what's the rig for?

 

[Josh Weston]

Also, the diagram seems to show the pump feeding water up into the reservoir - I could be wrong here, but I don't think that's the right way to do it.
Edit: oooh...it's a RAM block, not a reservoir. I see...

 

[MadMarc]

As Josh said, the water should go from the res to the pump, not the other way round. The c70 seems to be pretty similar to the 650d as far as space inside is concearned so there is not even 70mm between the roof and the top of the mb, which means definitely no push-pull, even a 40mm rad and a single set of fans is tight. I'd go with a 30 or 35mm thick one and a 240mm in the front, btw are you aware of the fact that you need to mod the case fo a 360? Not sure how you could mod the top and still maintain nice looks as there is no mesh cover like with the 600t

 

[greim]

You're never going to get a 40mm thick rad with push pull fans in a C70...
Highly doubt you'd get it in with a single set of fans either tbh...

This needs a massive rethink - Have you already bought all the parts?

And what's the rig for?

Nope, i haven't bought anything yet. That's why i made this post
It's just a list i threw together in a hurry.
And now that I've check'ed the c70 is only compatible with a 240 at the top, at least that's what they say on they're site.
And i also see that the c70 doesn't support XL-ATX.
So i might have to pick another case...
Too bad i was starting to get some really cool ideas about a military theme...
Are there any other military themed cases out there? (I have a HAF-X right now. But i don't like it at all)

 

[britrb]

I have the same layout, but the water is flowing out the reservoir, down to the pump, up to the radiator, then through the CPU block to the reservoir. Thats a 360mm RAD with three 120mm fans underneath pushing, and the 2 big fans (cant remember the size) which came with the case pulling out the top.

Try a HAF-X (my case.)

My photography sucks. Need to use a tripod and the remote to keep my drunken shaky hands effecting the shots!

Hope this helps,
Brian

 

[MadMarc]

I have the same layout, but the water is flowing out the reservoir, down to the pump, up to the radiator, then through the CPU block to the reservoir.

Try a HAF-X (my case.)

Hope this helps,
Brian

Dude he just wrote that he owns the HAF X and he doesn't like it at all

 

[jamesriley94]

What's the rig for?

 

[greim]

Dude he just wrote that he owns the HAF X and he doesn't like it at all

Well it's not a that bad, it's just I've had a lot of problems with it, and I've had it since it was released.
But as i said in my last post, are there any military themed cases out there?
If not, are there any cases you would recommend?

 

[greim]

What's the rig for?

CPU/GPU overclocking and ofc gaming.
The reason i'm going with liquid cooling is mostly because of the looks and the fun building it.

 

[MadMarc]

Why don't you just keep the c70 and go with a standard atx board instead, with a 80 or 60mm rad in the front and the 30mm in the top you'd have enough cooling for the cpu and the gpu

 

[jamesriley94]

You could put 2x240mm rads in the C70 and do it...

What is the rig for.....?

 

[MadMarc]

CPU/GPU overclocking and ofc gaming.
The reason i'm going with liquid cooling is mostly because of the looks and the fun building it.

If the rig is not for rendering please don't waste you money on 2011, get a nice z77 board an a 3570k instead

 

[greim]

If the rig is not for rendering please don't waste you money on 2011, get a nice z77 board an a 3570k instead

Well i have been looking at the MSI Z77 mpower.
But what cpu do you recommend with it? 3770k? or is that overkill?

 

[MadMarc]

Well i have been looking at the MSI Z77 mpower.
But what cpu do you recommend with it? 3770k? or is that overkill?

Good idea with this board, as I've said 3570k
If you really want a 680 you could get the lightning edition from msi to match the mb, although I'd personally go with a 670

Edit: ignore the lightning edition bit, I forgot about the water cooling

 

[andrewmchugh]

I would have the Loop flowing the reverse of what you have there as it will be easier to bleed. Also if possible have the rads ports at the front of the case rather than the back, otherwise you will have tube all across the mobo which will look nasty.

What cases are you looking at now?

 

[PapaSmurf6768]

Made some revisions in red, might make things a but cleaner. Also, if that blue thing is a res then you need to reverse the flow of the loop like Josh said, as the res needs to flow into the pump.

 

[airdeano]

RES>PUMP>GPU>TOP RAD>CPU>RES
or optional
RES>PUMP>GPU>TOP RAD>CPU>2ND RAD>RES

RES>PUMP>GPU>CPU>TOP RAD>RES is a good start but jacking heated coolant into the
CPU (overclocked of course) will lend to some crazy temps. i found running to the rad before
the CPU had a significant temp delta. but it'll be the decision of a clean and tidy look. plus
the first suggestion will keep the single res return shorter.

airdeano

 

[MadMarc]

RES>PUMP>GPU>TOP RAD>CPU>RES
or optional
RES>PUMP>GPU>TOP RAD>CPU>2ND RAD>RES

RES>PUMP>GPU>CPU>TOP RAD>RES is a good start but jacking heated coolant into the
CPU (overclocked of course) will lend to some crazy temps. i found running to the rad before
the CPU had a significant temp delta. but it'll be the decision of a clean and tidy look. plus
the first suggestion will keep the single res return shorter.

airdeano

Tom has mentioned this countless times; The order of the parts in a loop does NOT matter, you should always go for the cleanest looking loop

 

[andrewmchugh]

RES>PUMP>GPU>TOP RAD>CPU>RES
or optional
RES>PUMP>GPU>TOP RAD>CPU>2ND RAD>RES

RES>PUMP>GPU>CPU>TOP RAD>RES is a good start but jacking heated coolant into the
CPU (overclocked of course) will lend to some crazy temps. i found running to the rad before
the CPU had a significant temp delta. but it'll be the decision of a clean and tidy look. plus
the first suggestion will keep the single res return shorter.

airdeano

Not true.

There will actually be very little difference in temperatures between the inlet and outlet of each component whether it's a rad or block. Unless your flow rate was extremely slow you are mistaken.