Extreme build

[dacons]

Hey all I was hoping I could get some help,tips ,advice on a new build I did post a similar question about a year back but decided to wait for the next gen to assert itself in the mean time I bought what I thought would be an easy option in the way of an iMac which I F@!KING hate so before its worthless I wanna sell up and build myself a beast.
I will say before I start that the system will be overkill for my needs but I prefer to over do it then I have no regrets etc my last PC cost around 2K and is still a fair beast that trounces over most new setups including my mac to my horror unfortunately I handed it over to my old dear who doesn't wanna swap doh!.

Anyway to the spec so far im only focusing on primary components CPU , RAM , GPU , HDD and PSU case coolers etc il investigate later.

So these are what im looking at so far.

CPU ive looked at Intel i7 3930K and the i7 3820 also seen the newer ivy bridge 3770K
Mobo wise Asus Rampage IV Extreme unless its ivy then itl be an Asus Maximus V
Ram wise im looking 16GB unless 32GB would be better and probably dominator platinum

PSU im not sure corsair seem to be decent 850W should be ok or would I need more a 1000W

GPU wise I was looking at a Nvidea GTX690 but ive heard ATi will have there new GPU out soon.

HDD I want speed so id asume SSD is the way forward 120GB should be enough as I have a 6TB nas drive although will I still need a secondary drive for games plus is SSD in raid still a pointless effort.


Sorry if there are a load of dumb questions im getting back into it slowly so need a little spoon feeding to start with until I know what I need to search for etc.

 

[PingPangBV]

Oh boy...

Well how extreme of a build are you looking to make? Like overkill CPU and GPU power with next to no budget limitations or a reasonable performance for a reasonable price-build?

For any gaming build you'l hardly ever need to go X79 and you'l find yourself wasting a lot of money you could have spent on a better GPU for example.
By going for a 3770K you'l still be sitting with a CPU that'l laugh at pretty much anything you throw at it. Pair up the 3770K with an Asus Maximus V Formula/Extreme and you'l have a board capable of pushing that chip as far as the chip's willing to go.

When it comes to memory, 8GB is really enough for pretty much anything you want-unless you're running a server or doing something else that requires a huge amount of memory available. When you're talking about 16GB and 32GB and what would be better? Well, neither-because you won't ever be able to put all that memory to use and it'l be nothing but a waste of money.

GPU-wise, yes rumours are saying that AMD's going to release their 8xxx-series cards shortly. But I think you have to ask yourself: Do you really need something that delivers more performance than a GTX 690?

When speaking of PSUs then I would say that you generally will never need more than a 850W PSU unless you're running 3 7970s or 3 GTX 680s.

For SSD I'd go for the Samsung 840 PRO, simple as that.

 

[dacons]

Oh boy...

Well how extreme of a build are you looking to make? Like overkill CPU and GPU power with next to no budget limitations or a reasonable performance for a reasonable price-build?

Whilst im not looking to getting the dearest of every part I am looking to spend a bit my last rig cost £2000 with a hell of a lot of shopping around I probably saved a good £500 which is what I plan to do with this one hence me not putting a budget down.

any gaming build you'l hardly ever need to go X79 and you'l find yourself wasting a lot of money you could have spent on a better GPU for example.
By going for a 3770K you'l still be sitting with a CPU that'l laugh at pretty much anything you throw at it. Pair up the 3770K with an Asus Maximus V Formula/Extreme and you'l have a board capable of pushing that chip as far as the chip's willing to go.

My last setup I managed to go top end on nearly every thing and a few games still spat my system out so id rather have an excess of power then just enough du know what I mean.

it comes to memory, 8GB is really enough for pretty much anything you want-unless you're running a server or doing something else that requires a huge amount of memory available. When you're talking about 16GB and 32GB and what would be better? Well, neither-because you won't ever be able to put all that memory to use and it'l be nothing but a waste of money.

thats fair enough I can always add extra later if needed.
im assuming the dominators are acceptable but what Mhz?

GPU-wise, yes rumours are saying that AMD's going to release their 8xxx-series cards shortly. But I think you have to ask yourself: Do you really need something that delivers more performance than a GTX 690?

I was thinking more of ATi,s answer to the 690 the 7990 which ive just noticed is out so my bad

When speaking of PSUs then I would say that you generally will never need more than a 850W PSU unless you're running 3 7970s or 3 GTX 680s.

id rather avoid SLi it was a pain on my last system so looks like the 850 will do.

For SSD I'd go for the Samsung 840 PRO, simple as that.

thats cool

I should have probably given my uses aswell which are games mainly general office usage then some phot editing nothing major yet and video encoding I should also say I have little to no patience so faster the better.

An idea of what I want my last system was
CPU=QX6850
Mobo=EVGA 680i
Ram=teem xtreem low latency ram 3,s and 4,s and there was 4GB
GPU=I started of with on EVGA 8800 ultra KO edition but ended up with 2 thanks to ebay
2xWD RaptorX run in raid
PSU=Enermax galaxy 1000W

I tried over clocking but didnt have the patience but she is still going strong the only change was to the GPU I dumped the problematic DLI cards for a newer ATi but I forget the model.

 

[PingPangBV]

Well going for a 3770K will still be an overkill CPU for every game there is out there now and I refuse to believe that games in the next year or two will require a stronger CPU than the 3770K.

Well for memory speed you don't really need anything faster than 1600MHz RAM. Anything faster will grant you minimal performance gains. Going from 1600MHz RAM to 2400MHz RAM will grant you some microscopic performance boosts in benchmarks, but never anything noticable in any other scenario.

For SSD I'd still say the 840 PRO, end of discussion.

If you'l be rocking the 7990 then may I ask what monitor setup will you be using?
I feel like a 7990 in a 1080p 60Hz monitor is a waste. Mabye you should be looking at some higher resolution monitors, some 120Hz monitors or mabye even a multi monitor setup.

 

[dacons]

monitor wise im not totally sure yet but I do wanna do something special it will either be dual screen one of which will be touch or a big touch screen but its a bit early to make a decision as there isnt many of the touch screens out yet I think dell and acer are the only decent ones atm il also most likely hook it up to my 50" panasonic VT50

 

[seumasbeathan]

Could you list the specs that you plan on going for?

 

[dacons]

After Pinpangs input im leaning towards


Intel Core i7 3770K
Corsair DDR3 Dominator Platinum 8GB 16mhz
850W Corsair Professional Series Gold 850AX, Modular,
Asus MAXIMUS V EXTREME,
Radeon HD 7990
250GB Samsung 840 S

 

[seumasbeathan]

Do you really need the 7990? Are you going to be using a 2440p monitor? or triple screens?

 

[dacons]

Who knows I want to future proof it a little my last kit lasted over 5 years by doing so plus like i said it will be pumping through my TV aswell

 

[Christoi]

Why not get a HD7950/GTX670 and upgrade the video card two years down the road? Saves a lot of money and often yields better performance than sticking with a higher-end card for a longer period of time.

For a gaming rig, I honestly would not bother with a extreme overclocking, as you'll just kill the chip before it reaches five years of age. Just stick with something like a GD55 or Extreme4 motherboard along with a Hyper 212 evo, which should be sufficient for your needs.

It's worth noting though, that you simply cannot futureproof with technology, at least not without wasting a ton of money. Your current rig must have cost you a fortune when you first purchased it, but it's not capable of maxing out games today - if you have used the same money to start with a reasonable rig and upgraded over time, with the same amount of money you would probably have been able to maintain the high performance in modern titles for a far longer period of time.

 

[dacons]

My last PC cost around £2000 and couldnt touch the likes of crysis but ate most other titles for atleast 3 years in which time I got hold of a second GPU and doubled up.
I appreciate that with tech nothing lasts I can spend thousands today and a year later its out of date but as i said maxing out has served me well and its still working fantastically maybe not to my current needs but its better then any PC my dear old mum could buy.
Plus changing my PC every year or so doesnt interest me I want a solid bit of kit that will last.
plus as i said its not just a gaming rig I never used to edit photos or video but I do know granted on a limited basis but that may evolve further.

I appreciate everyones advice and im aware im going over kill for my needs and maybe wasting money but its ok im happy to do so if it gets me the rig I want .

Oh and il most likely buy a bumdle from the likes of scan who will do all the overclocking for me all to a safe degree

 

[seumasbeathan]

What were the specs of your last pc?

 

[dacons]

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[Bang]

You wont need 32GB of memory unless you plan on running most of it, say 24GB, as a ram drive. In which case faster memory is just that: functionally faster. With ram prices as low as they are these days and there being very little difference between the the cost of 1600 and 1866mhz, getting 1600 just makes no sense IMO.

If you are determined to get the best of the best of the best, why on earth would you get 1600mhz ram? Derp. Get 1866 or 2133 and if you want to run a ram drive, 32GB of it.

The 3770k is a great cpu and doesnt come with a stupidly high price tag for its performance. Sure it's a little expensive, but doesnt cost $1,000 either, and actually outperforms those expensive ones in many respects.

 

[dacons]

Yeah I think I've decided on the 3770k bang for buck it makes sense as for ram yeah was swinging towards the 1866 unless I get a deal on the higher and it will probably be 16gb more then I need now but extra if I ever do.
It's just down to the gpu now do I go gtx690 or hold on until more company's have released amd,s 7990

 

[PingPangBV]

Yeah I think I've decided on the 3770k bang for buck it makes sense as for ram yeah was swinging towards the 1866 unless I get a deal on the higher and it will probably be 16gb more then I need now but extra if I ever do.
It's just down to the gpu now do I go gtx690 or hold on until more company's have released amd,s 7990

I don't really think there will be any other 7990s tbh considering the rumours about the 8xxx-series is saying that it's just around the corner now.

If you can afford to wait then I suggest you have a look at the 8xxx-series cards when they arrive and see what performance they bring.

But then again, will you be needing that extra horsepower? Not really I guess, both the 690 and the 7990 are monsters as of today and I think you'l be happy with either of those cards in your posession.

 

[Bang]

That, my friend, is the $64 question. Patience is required if you think to wait. If you are like many if us though, you want it "Now, now, now, damnit now!!"

I guess the real issue lies in 'When will the new cards come out?' Who knows? It could be tomorrow, or it could be next year. Are you willing to wait that long?

If you are 90% sure youll buy a new card when they are released, wouldnt it make more sense to no go overkill on a card now, and get something like a 7950 (which can be sold later) and then get a.... 8995XT-OC when they come out? Rather than blowing a whopping $1,000 on a 7990 now? Hypothetically speaking of course.

 

[dacons]

I don't really think there will be any other 7990s tbh considering the rumours about the 8xxx-series is saying that it's just around the corner now.

If thats the case then il probably just go with a 690 but will do a bit of research into the 8 series but it looks like its out Q2 so bit far away for me.

 

[dacons]

Ok think ive got it speced

Intel i7 3770K
Asus Maximus Extreme
16GB corsair dominator platinum 1866Mhz
Corsair AX pro gold (modular)
EVGA GTX 690
Samsung 256GB 840 Pro Series
Corsair H80i Cpu cooler

the rest haven looked at like the corsair cases il most likely get a pioneer Bluray RW there cheap enough other then this I think thats the PC but if anyone has any suggestions like a better HDD or brand of GPU etc let me know also anything else worth looking at that I havent thought of .

Oh should say im not interested in a sound card seems a little pointless to me or for me should I say.

 

[WillSK]

you're prob better off getting an NHD14 than a h80i for cooling performance. either that or bump up to a h100i??