ECI 33+ (3 Stage Cascade)

NoL

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So here's some autocad!

ECI 33+

Estimated Temperature: -110C to -150C

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Little update.

Got home today, gotta start unpacking a huge amount of stuff from school. But, ran down stairs, and threw some crap on the table.

Hope you enjoy.

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Some fairly sloppy grinding and heavy red krylon paint later,

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A milling machine! Richard got it into the workshop on this dolley of his. I was scared watching this thing jump up and down with each step. (Had to underinflate the tires on the dolley to take 300lbs safely)

(And not that loud ;) )

Welding up a new work table, mainly for the project, but also for the milling machine.

Then we can start plotting the cage :)

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Table 1 done. Milling machine going on up tomorrow.

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Winch + ceiling beam = Mill on Table!

I'm happy it made it, table seems more then okay, but conducts vibration a bit much.

Going to get some more MDF under it, get it all bolted down. And then figure out why the spindle ain't spinnin!

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Everything moved over, so time to start laying out parts.

Might have a lead on the condenser I'd like for this, so the front is a little empty.

Compressors that seem "used" are working pulls from my own personal cascade that well, I built and never got around to finishing. So they're brand new still.

Layout time.

Brazed the first suction stem on compressor numero uno. It's nice to do them like this, since they'll shoot straight up to the heat exchanger coils. Nice and easy to insulate.

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Heat exchanger time.

You can never have enough copper.

Making some fitting attachments.

Cleaned and shined;

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Survey says...

OIL SEPARATORS!

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Let me explain this picture a bit.

It's fairly hard to shove one tube inside another tube. It's especially hard as the lengths required get long and longer. When making a heat exchanger using 3/16 and 3/8" tube, it becomes an exercise in insanity.

Both tubes must be nearly perfectly straight.

That means, even the tinyiest imperfections become a problem. As you begin to push one through, friction becomes a huge problem. Even a degree or two at a tiny spot pushes parts of the tube against the inside of the other tube.

This isn't a problem with performance, simply that it becomes impossible to push one tube in any farther. You must then withdraw it, figure out what's stopping you, touch it a tiny little bit, and try again.

My method involves 5 ft long steel beams and clamps.

Clamp the tubes straight as possible.

And try.

When your looking down a 20ft long barrel though, things get interesting.

This took 3 days.

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And bent on up.

20" by 12". 4 loops or so tall.

Should be adequate heat exchange. And nice and easy to insulate, I hope.

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Second heat exchanger rolled, CPEV's tested played. Nice and up front. They will be "separately" insulated in their own little sealed box.

Now thats sexy. And under 3 inches tall.

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Pink time!

Those CPEV's are looking beastley aren't they?

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I think I went a bit overboard height wise. Don't need that much! (Yay the cascade just got shorter!) I think I'll shave 2 inches off of her. Having the "low" HX in the center helps with the insulation of it. Normally -80 to -90C would require 3" of foam.

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5 of 6 gauge kits.

2 ft of 1/8" tube on each, after brazing in an inch and a half of 1/4" tube to a tube adapator.

Will find that last bit or just pickup another while I'm at homedepot getting JB Weld for these joints. I don't like teflon tape, it's just not robust enough for me.

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Whoa, the subzero cooling forum lives. :)

Looks like a nice project you've got there... personally I'm waiting for the winter so I can just take my box outside. ;)
 
Gauge prep! 6 lines made up, two lines for the hot gas bypass solenoid done as well.

JB Weld time, that will take the rest of the night to dry. Then will begin to pressure test components.

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Oh also picked up 1/2" steel (smaller stuff) to weld up the cradle for the HX box.
 
(acts like he's fully clued up on this)

U use 3 different gasses in this ? (which ones)

Missed NoL's threads. :worship:
 
goddam dude that's one hell of a build you're taking on there :worship: Keep the money shots rolling in :p

Every time I see one of these threads it makes me want phase more and more and more :nono:
 
Extra insulation bolstering the HX box, pushed finishing nails through, holds the walls in, and lined all the holes with nice black duct tape. That'll seal it up before I spray it with foam later on.

Now to do some welding work.

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Obviously I haven't touched this in a while. Had shoulder surgery and medical school keeps you low on time. So back to work on it.

Today I finished the base, swapped first and second stage to new QK191CAB compressors (1hp), and made mounting brackets for every part.

Also got some brazing done.

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She's almost totally piped up. Just waiting on the condenser fan. Big 1/3hp 3 speed that will probably get turned way the hell down but was the only thing I could find that fit the bolt pattern of the old fan.

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NoL! Long time no talk man. I'm very glad to see that you're still active in the cascade building arena and posting on OC3D! Great news. Hope to see more of this awesome project soon.
 
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About time!

Okay so this had a 1/3hp 230vac motor on here. Sadly this meant that, to get a 110vac motor and keep the same fan grill and fan blades, I had to find specific mounting holes. A big thank you goes out to Copeland for there wonderful sourcing department, who actually found me the matching 110vac motor to their 230vac motor in bolt size and everything... and then showed me where to buy it at the cheapest price FROM A COMPETITOR. I must say; that is not necessarily "customer service" but it is certainly "customer assistance" at it's maximum.

A pondering of new bolts later, finding this wasn't mounted on 8-32's but 10'-24's, a redrilling of a few holes in the mounting bracket, and kabam the condenser was ready. So what happens when you finally turn on a 1/3hp motor attached to a very large 16" fan that still hasn't actually been bolted down? Oh nothing; except the entire cascade started rolling in the opposite direction.

Did I mention it's a tight fit?

Compressor 1 and 2 aren't going to have "cooling" issues.
 
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Everything but the connections to the box are done; box is now being slightly remade to have a bit more support and insulation for the inner chamber HX.
 
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