Crashes in any game I play except LoL or Second Life.

[DwarfAdigginAhole]

Ryzan 2600
GSkill Trident Z 16gb 3200 kit 16-18-18-38 Asus Strix b450 f
H115i Pro AIO
970 Evo 1tb NVME
MSI Gaming X 1080 ti
Windows 10 Pro 64bit

Now with specs out or the way I have been crashing in any game i play. Sniper Elite 4 gives me a D3DDRED2 in Event Viewer, DOOM 2016 outright bsods me with an irql_not_less_or_equal message. The weird thing is this is only a game issue, I can run Heaven and Superposition benchmarks just fine. I've run Blender benches with no crashing ether. I ran Prime95 for about 15mins with no issues either. I'm running memtest atm, 15 mins in and 83% on pass 1 and so far no errors. I have reinstalled my drivers on just about everything and even swapped to my friends RTX 2060 and I still get the same issues in Doom 2016. Does anyone have any clue what might be wrong?

 

[AlienALX]

https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4028391/windows-how-to-fix-error-0xa-irqlnotlessorequal

If that doesn't fix it you may need to reinstall, as other things suggest your system file is corrupt.

 

[DwarfAdigginAhole]

https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4028391/windows-how-to-fix-error-0xa-irqlnotlessorequal

If that doesn't fix it you may need to reinstall, as other things suggest your system file is corrupt.

I'm on my 2nd pass of memtest and suddenly am getting errors. Like. 3 just as I type this. At around the 41% mark. Never mind in the time it took to type this i am upwards of 1000 errors in memtest at the 50% mark. This looks like it might be a ram issue.

*edit*
May I have a few Fs in the replys.

http://imgur.com/a/vSZAMGw

 

[AlienALX]

Ok then on the fly data is corrupt due to bad RAM.

That sucks man.

 

[looz]

Could just be that memory controller isn't quite up to the task of running XMP settings - which sounds quite plausible with a gen 2 ryzen. Increasing DRAM voltage, loosening timings or dropping ram clocks could help. Sometimes even typing in the timings manually instead of using XMP helps.

 

[AlienALX]

I can't see 3200 16 being too heavy tbh. However, maybe loosen the timings off to 18 and try that.

 

[looz]

I can't see 3200 16 being too heavy tbh. However, maybe loosen the timings off to 18 and try that.

Well, the looser secondary and tertiary timings hint of lower quality memory chips.

 

[AlienALX]

No dude that's not what I meant. 2000 series were still "3000 or 3200 if lucky". What I meant was the memory controller may not like the timings.

So yeah, 3200 @ 18 may be better, or 3000 @ 16 or the memory could well be stuffed.

 

[DwarfAdigginAhole]

No dude that's not what I meant. 2000 series were still "3000 or 3200 if lucky". What I meant was the memory controller may not like the timings.

So yeah, 3200 @ 18 may be better, or 3000 @ 16 or the memory could well be stuffed.

I manually set the CL to 18 and it seems to have fixed the issue. Im going to run a memtest in a minute but it didn't crash in Doom.

Also, I was thinking about just buying this kit of memory https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WTS8T2W/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 but if this is an actual fix, would it even be worth buying this kit since it is not on my QVL and I wont be upgrading till the end of this yearish since I am trying to wait for Ryzen 4000?

 

[AlienALX]

I did a lot of benching recently in regards to timings. I run mine at 3600 CL15 ATM. I can probably go lower, because my RAM is 4133 so with lower clocks means tight timings.

It really does become diminishing returns. So I would make sure it's stable, then leave it alone.

And no, I would not upgrade the kit. Keep hold of it for now. Like I said, you are talking fractions here. Very small ones.

Mine is highlighted orange. I then lowered them to 16 across the board and pretty much matched the guy above me, but even at 15 I got maybe 1% better score.

 

[DwarfAdigginAhole]

I did a lot of benching recently in regards to timings. I run mine at 3600 CL15 ATM. I can probably go lower, because my RAM is 4133 so with lower clocks means tight timings.

It really does become diminishing returns. So I would make sure it's stable, then leave it alone.

And no, I would not upgrade the kit. Keep hold of it for now. Like I said, you are talking fractions here. Very small ones.

Mine is highlighted orange. I then lowered them to 16 across the board and pretty much matched the guy above me, but even at 15 I got maybe 1% better score.

So I found out this is kinda my fault. This ram kit is on QVL for this bored and the 2000 series...buttttt the timings that it is validated for is 18-18-18-38. Not 16-18-18-38, which is what it comes as standard. I'm going to do the Ryzen Memory calculator tomorrow to get the perfect timings for this kit/course combo. But right now just finished memtest and changing the cl to 18 alone fixed the memory.

 

[AlienALX]

So I found out this is kinda my fault. This ram kit is on QVL for this bored and the 2000 series...buttttt the timings that it is validated for is 18-18-18-38. Not 16-18-18-38, which is what it comes as standard. I'm going to do the Ryzen Memory calculator tomorrow to get the perfect timings for this kit/course combo. But right now just finished memtest and changing the cl to 18 alone fixed the memory.

Awesome, well I am glad we cracked it because stuff like this can send one around the bend tbh.

My 4133 RAM will DOCP or whatever it's called, but you get a red warning telling you that you are overclocking something and it may not POST. Which it then doesn't lmao.

The dumb part is I paid less for it on sale than 3600 RAM exactly the same. Then again thankfully I do know how to input timings and clocks etc or it would be running 2133 now.

But yeah, on memory the limits are not really the memory itself. Ryzen was always picky. It's only really on 3000 you can buy pretty much anything and get it to work.

 

[RobM]

I also went 4133 patriot viper steel and at 55£ they sure were a steal

 

[AlienALX]

Yeah. I guess they realised that AMD users may well send them back lol.

As I say though, great for super tight timings.

 

[looz]

No dude that's not what I meant. 2000 series were still "3000 or 3200 if lucky". What I meant was the memory controller may not like the timings.

So yeah, 3200 @ 18 may be better, or 3000 @ 16 or the memory could well be stuffed.

My point about it being lesser ram is that if it was, say b-die, 3200 @ 16 would probably be kosher. But the timings are a dead giveaway that it's something else.



But glad it's sorted.

 

[DwarfAdigginAhole]

Okay I have a question. I have been running this system in error for a hot minute. I am not noticing anything extremely off now but would it be a safe bet to just reinstall Windows?

 

[AlienALX]

Okay I have a question. I have been running this system in error for a hot minute. I am not noticing anything extremely off now but would it be a safe bet to just reinstall Windows?

You can do. "bad" (or not functioning correctly) RAM can corrupt files. Especially the ones it was reading and writing to whilst the memory was not working correctly.

 

[looz]

Okay I have a question. I have been running this system in error for a hot minute. I am not noticing anything extremely off now but would it be a safe bet to just reinstall Windows?

You can run a system file integrity check: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4026529/windows-10-using-system-file-checker


Windows 8 article is more verbose: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...er-tool-to-repair-missing-or-corrupted-system