Concerned about the ivy bridge stability and durability

[shizuka]

For the better performance/ cycle and lower temps although not so good oc'ing If I do get a new rig it would likely be an ivy. But i'v read that the ivy bridge uses thermal paste rather than proper soldering between the chip and heat-plate explaining the dissipating capacity wall and possibly meaning a reduced lifespan and random performance depending on not only silicon lottery but also thermal paste being spread well or not.

Considering that the choice of sandy bridge or ivy bridge in a new rig becomes complicated. I'm not too concerned about max oc'ing but am concerned with stability (and noise). What do you think about it?

 

[PingPangBV]

For the better performance/ cycle and lower temps although not so good oc'ing If I do get a new rig it would likely be an ivy. But i'v read that the ivy bridge uses thermal paste rather than proper soldering between the chip and heat-plate explaining the dissipating capacity wall and possibly meaning a reduced lifespan and random performance depending on not only silicon lottery but also thermal paste being spread well or not.

Considering that the choice of sandy bridge or ivy bridge in a new rig becomes complicated. I'm not too concerned about max oc'ing but am concerned with stability (and noise). What do you think about it?

I don't think you should be concerned about stability issues with the ivy bridges if you're not going for a high overclock with high voltage for an ivy chip. I remember in TTL's review on the I7 3770k that he reached a wall at 1,350V where the chip met the thermal limits and the temperatures went up like mad from there on. So if you're going for reasonable voltages (not over 1,330V) you could safely go for a mild overclock (4GHz-4,4GHz) with a silent cooler on it.

 

[nothingspecial]

Is the TIM thing confirmed in the retail chips yet? I heard a rumour that it might have only been the engineering samples.

 

[S_I_N]

seems some havent read the other 2 threads on this topic. Dont fret over spilt milk, other thest has shown even de-lidding it had no improvement and in some cases made the temps worse.

Y'all should keep in mind Intel has a ginormous budget for R&D they wouldnt put out something if they suspected it would fail prematurely. They've use TIM before without issue so no reason to say thats whats causing the thermal wall now. Rather than it simply being put smaller die and a helluva lot more stuff on the chip to start with. Enhanced mem controll faster IGP pci-e 3.0 support to name a few.

 

[SieB]

Temps aren't actually that bad some people are getting some good OCs. As long as you have a decent cooler you shouldn't be worried.

http://forums.aria.co.uk/showthread.php/86101-Ivy-bridge-chat/page43

 

[TheOsTech]

for me 1.19 v core seems to be fully stable for 4.4. 1.17 vcore is not. temps with nh-d14 and 1.19 are not even close to bad. 60ish average running ibt.

 

[marsey99]

they need less voltage at more normal oc speeds so the temps only come into play when you really push the clocks it seems mate.

i think the real question with sandy v ivy is do/will you use the igp as ivy is much better. cpu wise they are almost the same but ivy has a better imc offering speeds sandy just cant do.

sandy is great because we can all really push them with air cooling, ivy will need much more powerful cooling to get the max speed from. ivy has a better igp, better imc and will run cooler at normal speeds.

 

[TheOsTech]

Decided to play with the cpu a little. For me personally I don't like speed step because it causes wild fluctuations in framrate that otherwise stays at 60 when it is off. on the p8z77 you cant oc without it so I thought I would see how low I could take the volts at 3.5ghz. Settled for .885 vcore .870 would run ibt but did not feel stable.

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[KING_OF_SAND]

i wont be happy unless I can hit 5.5ghz

 

[TheOsTech]

lol don't hold your breath. maybe with the respin but I doubt it. probably more like 5-5.1 if we are lucky.