Can't get my DDR4 to run at 3.000Mhz

[Catalonia]

Hi guys.

I am new in OC3D! Here my greeting (http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=72956) I have to admit I am a total noob. So, excuse me if I may ask silly questions.

I come from the Mac world, and I am used to have everything up and running just out of the box. Now I decided to change back to the PC world, with this config:

1. Processor: Intel 5930k 3.5GHz 15MB 40 Lanes
2. Motherboard: Asus Rampage V Extreme 3.1 X99
3. Cooling: Corsair H100i GTX Hydro
4. RAM: Kingston HyperX Predator DDR4 3.000MHz 32GB (4x8G ) HX430C15PBK4/32
5. SSD: Samsung SM951 NVME 512GB 2.200MB/s
6. Graphics Card: Asus Strix GTX 980 Ti 6GB
7. PSU: Corsair AX1500i
8. Cabling: Corsair Individually.S Red Cables
9. Case: Corsair 780T
10. Monitor: Asus PG278Q 144Hz G-Sync TN
11. Keyboard: Corsair K95
12. HDD: WD 3TB Red SATA

I am absolutely unable to set the XMP Profile and get my Kingston HyperX to run at 3.000MHz. I can only get my system to boot in "auto" which sets the DDR4 modules to run at 2.166MHz.

I've read in the ROG forums that I have to set the XMP profile and try to move the System Agent Voltate in 0.01v by 0.01 to find the stable spot.

I did that, but never got my system to boot, and when it does, it goes straight to a windows blue screen of death.


So, after all this pain I am seriously considering to return everything to Amazon and by a new Mac, unless I can get it to work stable at 3.000Mhz.

I would like to ask some questions if I may:

1) When I set the XMP profile it automatically changes the BCLK to 125. Do I really have to OC my CPU in order to use my DDR4 at 3.000MHz? Can I keep my CPU running on "normal" speed BUS and multiplier, and have the RAM going at the (certified speed?) Or is mandatory to increase the BCLCK to 125Mhz?

2) Is there any set of DDR4 modules 3.000Mhz that work "out of the box" using XMP in the Asus Rampage V Extreme?

3) Am I missing something? Is maybe my motherboard, or chip or RAM broken? Or is me, that I just don't know how to set up my BIOS to the correct settings?


If somebody can give me a hand I would really appreciate it.


Thank you in advance!

 

[tinytomlogan]

RIght hold up.

If you cant get it to run at 3000MHz you are going to return it ALL and buy a MAC?

Im not even sure after reading that I even want to bother trying to help tbh

 

[Wraith]

You're going to have to do some bios fettling I'm afraid, the Intel 5930k RAM controller supports DDR4 1333, 1600 & 2133Mhz, tweaking/Overclocking is going to be needed.

Just like I have 2133Mhz Dominator Platinums I can only run them at 1333 or 1600Mhz because that is what my CPU supports regardless of XMP profiles.

 

[tinytomlogan]

Yup Wraith is right - 3000 is possible but you have to get your hands dirty and set it up. Nothing is wrong what so ever, you just need to stop panicking and chill.

Technically your CPU may not even get 3000MHz running just FYI

 

[Catalonia]

RIght hold up.

If you cant get it to run at 3000MHz you are going to return it ALL and buy a MAC?

Im not even sure after reading that I even want to bother trying to help tbh

I am a Mac user... And this is my "first" enter into the PC world after so many years... And I am totally unable to make it working. I know I'm a noob and I admit it. I just don't know what else to do, that's why I'm asking for help here and I have all intention to make it work! In fact, I decided to buy many of the components I have after watching your reviews.

Thanks...

 

[B NEGATIVE]

Yup Wraith is right - 3000 is possible but you have to get your hands dirty and set it up. Nothing is wrong what so ever, you just need to stop panicking and chill.

Technically your CPU may not even get 3000MHz running just FYI

All of this. If you look at your manual,it will clearly state the OC memory values and what is stock.

Also,please share what the BSOD code was,this will tell you exactly what went wrong.

3000 is possible but it far from the norm.....

In the meantime,use a lower XMP,around the 2400 mark is great, and work from there.
Run memtest86 from boot and check that you dont have a duff stick.

 

[Catalonia]

Yup Wraith is right - 3000 is possible but you have to get your hands dirty and set it up. Nothing is wrong what so ever, you just need to stop panicking and chill.

Technically your CPU may not even get 3000MHz running just FYI

Ok, so. Should I not use XMP and set all the settings manually?

 

[tinytomlogan]

I am a Mac user... And this is my "first" enter into the PC world after so many years... And I am totally unable to make it working. I know I'm a noob and I admit it. I just don't know what else to do, that's why I'm asking for help here and I have all intention to make it work! In fact, I decided to buy many of the components I have after watching your reviews.

Thanks...

Saying stuff like that then is just silly. Read above. You will have to set it up.

3000MHz is a big ask for a 5930K and Ive had a few 5820's through here and NONE of them could hold 3000mhz.

Set the XMP and then scroll down to where it says the 'memory speed' and try setting it to 2800mhz for example and see how that fairs.

If we can get it running youll be changing a lot of the volts and need to post a lot of screenshots of your BIOS etc so please be patient and remember all this advise and our time here is free.

 

[Catalonia]

You're going to have to do some bios fettling I'm afraid, the Intel 5930k RAM controller supports DDR4 1333, 1600 & 2133Mhz, tweaking/Overclocking is going to be needed.

Just like I have 2133Mhz Dominator Platinums I can only run them at 1333 or 1600Mhz because that is what my CPU supports regardless of XMP profiles.

OK that's "inspiring"... So, OK my CPU is mandatory. Luckily my H100i GTX keeps my CPU at 39º so I think I have some margin here.

 

[Kaapstad]

RIght hold up.

If you cant get it to run at 3000MHz you are going to return it ALL and buy a MAC?

Im not even sure after reading that I even want to bother trying to help tbh

Please be nice Tom, X99 is a heap of poo when it comes to fast DDR4.

OP make sure you are using the latest bios with your motherboard as this will help a lot with the memory.

As to the 125bclk this is needed to get the memory working at it's rated 3000mhz speed. Having said that it is better to use 125bclk than 100bclk as it is good for better performance from the GPUs.

3000 is possible but it far from the norm.....

In the meantime,use a lower XMP,around the 2400 mark is great, and work from there.
Run memtest86 from boot and check that you dont have a duff stick.

3000mhz is not difficult from most of then CPUs I have seen people use. Both of my 5960Xs run the memory @3200mhz and can go higher.

What is a real pain is if you are using an old bios on a RVE board as what happens is the bios becomes more and more corrupted with each system crash. With the latest bios things are a lot more forgiving and much better.

 

[Kilbane]

Are you looking to Overclock your rig to push as much out as possible, or are you just looking for stable and fast (Your hardware is already pretty top end). If just stable and fast, look for lower memory speeds that will be easier achieved. Once there you will start gaining a solid knowledge foundation to consider trying to push further.

 

[Catalonia]

Saying stuff like that then is just silly. Read above. You will have to set it up.

3000MHz is a big ask for a 5930K and Ive had a few 5820's through here and NONE of them could hold 3000mhz.

Set the XMP and then scroll down to where it says the 'memory speed' and try setting it to 2800mhz for example and see how that fairs.

If we can get it running youll be changing a lot of the volts and need to post a lot of screenshots of your BIOS etc so please be patient and remember all this advise and our time here is free.

I will definitely try this on later (I'm at work now)

I totally appreciate your help guys, I promise I'll be as patient as hell if I can at least make some improvement. I will be posting my error codes and screenshots with the results.

THANK YOU!!!

Cheers from Barcelona!

 

[B NEGATIVE]

Please be nice Tom, X99 is a heap of poo when it comes to fast DDR4.

OP make sure you are using the latest bios with your motherboard as this will help a lot with the memory.

As to the 125bclk this is needed to get the memory working at it's rated 3000mhz speed. Having said that it is better to use 125bclk than 100bclk as it is good for better performance from the GPUs.

Interesting,how does OC'ing the PCI-e interface actually matter when its not bandwidth starved from the beginning?

 

[Catalonia]

Are you looking to Overclock your rig to push as much out as possible, or are you just looking for stable and fast (Your hardware is already pretty top end). If just stable and fast, look for lower memory speeds that will be easier achieved. Once there you will start gaining a solid knowledge foundation to consider trying to push further.

At the moment I am trying to get a "stable" system. (I though having my RAM at 3.000Mhz) wasn't OC, because they ARE certified to work at 3.000.... (Ignorant...)

Anyway in the meantime here I post my Futuremark results having everything on "Default-Auto"


www.3dmark.com/3dm/8809699

 

[B NEGATIVE]

At the moment I am trying to get a "stable" system. (I though having my RAM at 3.000Mhz) wasn't OC, because they ARE certified to work at 3.000.... (Ignorant...)

Anyway in the meantime here I post my Futuremark results having everything on "Default-Auto"


www.3dmark.com/3dm/8809699

The RAM is indeed rated for that speed,the IMC on your chip is not however.

 

[Kilbane]

At the moment I am trying to get a "stable" system. (I though having my RAM at 3.000Mhz) wasn't OC, because they ARE certified to work at 3.000.... (Ignorant...)

Anyway in the meantime here I post my Futuremark results having everything on "Default-Auto"


www.3dmark.com/3dm/8809699

Don't worry dude, when you start buying enthusiast grade components they will often expect a grounded knowledge already. Everyone has to start somewhere. Just remember they hardware you have purchased is all designed to being run faster than "stock" values. So I would recommend trawling through the forum and see what knowledge you can gain, then start to push bit by bit to make a great system rather than a good system.

 

[Kaapstad]

Interesting,how does OC'ing the PCI-e interface actually matter when its not bandwidth starved from the beginning?

When benching 125 is preferred as it will give an extra 1% or 2% more performance out of the cards in some benches and games. I don't think things are bandwidth starved @100 but 125 is possibly more efficient.

 

[B NEGATIVE]

When benching 125 is preferred as it will give an extra 1% or 2% more performance out of the cards in some benches and games. I don't think things are bandwidth starved @100 but 125 is possibly more efficient.

It was very common to BCLK clock AMD and earlier Intel chips for the overall 'snappyness' and better memory performance,especially with AMD chips..

However 1-2% is within margin of error.

I will have to fire up the 5820k and have a fiddle.

 

[Kaapstad]

It was very common to BCLK clock AMD and earlier Intel chips for the overall 'snappyness' and better memory performance,especially with AMD chips..

However 1-2% is within margin of error.

I will have to fire up the 5820k and have a fiddle.

I am gutted that I have to use 100bclk with my 5960Xs as that is what is needed to run my memory at it's rated 3200mhz.

If I were to use 125mhz bclk my memory would have to run @3250mhz and it does not like it.

 

[Kilbane]

It was very common to BCLK clock AMD and earlier Intel chips for the overall 'snappyness' and better memory performance,especially with AMD chips..

However 1-2% is within margin of error.

I will have to fire up the 5820k and have a fiddle.

Would really be interested to see the results. I imagine upping the BCLK to achieve better memory speeds will make a big difference, GPU side however I don't think will really be impacted to a point that would make it worthwhile.