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Excalabur50

Excalabur50

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G'day peeps I'm in the middle of discussions with MSI HQ about their voltages when on Auto in the BIOS as I think they may be high, so what I'd like to ask is could you please tell me your CPU and Board type and what your Auto voltages are please as this will help me to gauge whether my voltages are high in relation to others.

Thanks very much to all who help me out with this request!
 
MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon

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This is with voltage and cpu all auto. I did originally set up everything manually but was unstable (hard locks) with multiple configs that should have been fine.

EDIT: It fluctuates between 2.8 and 4.24ghz. Core volts dropping to 0.7-0.9, when in use it's mostly around the 1.40 mark, peaking around 1.45V.
It's too high but I spent weeks trying to get it stable and in the end I gave up.
 
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Thanks NickOmega and were you trying to overclock or undervolt as I've managed to get mine to 1.175v but although it passed OCCT it didn't really like it so I've now got it at 1.2v and so far so good.
MSI sent me a screen shot of an Asus board and it was (1.46V ~ 1.49V) at auto on a PRIME X370-PRO so maybe their 1.44 isn't as high as I thought.
PS make sure you have the latest BIOS too as it helps the easiest way to check it is with Live Update 6
 
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I was originally testing an overclock, then tried with just undervolting. Also tried with a persistent 4 and 3.9ghz and it just wasn't having any of it.

It was weird; would boot into Windows some times then not others.
Would sit happily through a p95 test then hard lock when opening a web browser, or with same settings would error out/lock on p95 almost instantly.
In the end it borked my Windows install so when I reinstalled I just set to auto and left it.

I will try the updated BIOS at some point (wasn't one available at the time)
 
Looks like you and I lucked out with the silicone lottery mine was too hot when OC'd but seems to be running quite happily now undervolted, hopefully a BIOS update might help you dude.
 
I'm using a Asrock AB350 Pro4 motherboard with my Ryzen 7 1700x.

Auto voltage on the CPU at 3.5Ghz is 1.280v, cooled with a Noctua NH-D15 but it never boosts.

This will eventually be given to my dad and I will replace it with either, the 3000 series or a threadripper system.
 
Updated BIOS this evening (7B85v12)
No improvement at all. Still too high on auto volts and not able to undervolt (wouldn't even boot below 1.35v)

Back to auto volts it is but now seen it as high as 1.48v :/ and my fan curves don't seem to work (I did re-set each of them)
 
NickOmega said:
Updated BIOS this evening (7B85v12)
No improvement at all. Still too high on auto volts and not able to undervolt (wouldn't even boot below 1.35v)

Back to auto volts it is but now seen it as high as 1.48v :/ and my fan curves don't seem to work (I did re-set each of them)
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Well according to MSI the voltages are controlled by the chip when you're in the bios and 1.4+ isn't unusual and they showed me Asus and it's 1.49v also you might have just gotten bad silicon that needs higher volts to run.
Was it ok at 1.35v if so just set it to that and from what I've seen HWinfo is the best for your voltage readings
 
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Well according to MSI the voltages are controlled by the chip when you're in the bios and 1.4+ isn't unusual and they showed me Asus and it's 1.49v also you might have just gotten bad silicon that needs higher volts to run.
Was it ok at 1.35v if so just set it to that and from what I've seen HWinfo is the best for your voltage readings
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Nah wasn't ok, it locked up on sign in.
1.375 - Booted fine. Ran OCCT ok, albeit with a lower all core speed (3.4-3.5) then locked as soon as I stopped the test. I am using HWinfo for monitoring. At this point I'm inclined to agree that I got a bad chip, but will probably be going for new Ryzen next year, but I'll also decide whether to change the mobo too.
I apologise, I've derailed your thread somewhat.

I don't agree with MSI showing Asus pushing too many volts; it's almost like they're saying "Well these are bad too" as a justification.
 
NickOmega said:
Nah wasn't ok, it locked up on sign in.
1.375 - Booted fine. Ran OCCT ok, albeit with a lower all core speed (3.4-3.5) then locked as soon as I stopped the test. I am using HWinfo for monitoring. At this point I'm inclined to agree that I got a bad chip, but will probably be going for new Ryzen next year, but I'll also decide whether to change the mobo too.
I apologise, I've derailed your thread somewhat.

I don't agree with MSI showing Asus pushing too many volts; it's almost like they're saying "Well these are bad too" as a justification.
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Damien c is doing alright with his bios at 1.3 but everything I've been able to find, Ryzen runs higher voltages than Intel and I think speaking for myself I'm too used to Intels lower voltages and expecting the same when it's a completely different architecture.
And no I don't think you've derailed the thread it's all about what our boards are doing on auto :)
And MSI saying Asus are doing it too is probably a true statement as Ryzen uses more volts so I can't really fault them for that but that being said I'd like them to use 1.275-1.35 max
 
I think board partners should allow those who want to leave everything on auto to be able to set a maximum voltage target and then throttle the cpu if need be. Would be interesting for those who are more power saving worried
 
At idle I am at 1.145v and 3.4 and a cinebench the volts go up to 1.275 and cores remain 3.4 so I don't appear to get any cores boosting. (will check bios although I did set it to run defaults)
Double check of BIOS confirms I was at auto
 
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So I just checked and set my cpu to run at 3.5Ghz across all cores using Ryzen Master and set my ram to it's proper speed of 2400Mhz.

Left all voltages on Auto and ran OCCT.

Image shows voltages that it peaked at but it was running most of the time at 1.280v whilst under full load with the occasional jump to 1.318v or 1.34v when starting OCCT.

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Normally I find MSI boards to be really good with Auto volts but it looks like your isn't.
 
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