Building a new one! Your thoughts..?

[LA_Hegarty]

So I'm planning on a new build, I'll be using it for Music production & HD Video editing.

Here's what I have bought/have so far:

(From old pc)

Antec 900 Case With Power supply 430W

(From old pc)

DVD-RW Sata

(From old pc)

INNO3D GeForce 8600GT 256MB (Will be upgrading at later date)

(New 2nd hand) £85

Zalman Reserator 1 Plus Water cooling

With

ZM-WB5 Water Cooling CPU Block for AM2/3+

& ZM-GWB3 Water Cooling VGA Block

(New 2nd hand) £70

16GB Mushkin Redline DDR3 PC3-14900 9-10-9-27

(New 2nd hand) £130 Both

x2 Samsung 128GB SATA 3 Gb/s (Raid 0)

This is what I'm planing on buying to go with that lot:

one of the following M/B's?

ASRock 990FX EXTREME3 (AM3+) £85

specs sort list

3 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 slots

DDR3 2100(OC)/1866

Sata 6Gb 6x

USB 3.0 2x

1394 None!

Full http://www.asrock.co...=Specifications

ASRock 990FX Extreme4 (AM3+) £130

specs sort list

3 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 slots

DDR3 2100(OC)/1866

Sata 6Gb 8x

USB 3.0 4x

1394 x2

Full http://www.asrock.co...=Specifications

And one of the following CPU's most likely the cheapest for now!

AMD FX-8150 Eight-Core, Passmark: 8,243, OC 9,676

AMD FX-8120 Eight-Core, Passmark: 7,085, OC 8,900

AMD FX-8100 Eight-Core, Passmark: 6,508, OC ?

AMD FX-6200 Six-Core, Passmark: 6,480, OC 7,027

AMD FX-4170 Quad-Core, Passmark: 4,759, OC 5,460

AMD FX-4100 Quad-Core, Passmark: 3,984, OC 4,774

(Thinking of going for this one as there's one online for £65 & all the others are £100+, leaves room for a future upgrade)

Don't really want to spend any more then £200, already spent £285 + the parts I had case etc..

What do you think?

LA.

 

[Lauralarry]

if you get the 6+ core you misewell get and i5 2500k when it drops

 

[LA_Hegarty]

But the AMD FX-8120 beats the i5 2500k and its less to buy, also beats it when overclocked too,

Passmarks - CPU benchmarks​

AMD FX-8120 Eight-Core 7,085​

Intel Core i5-2500K @ 3.30GHz 6,743 ​

 

[LA_Hegarty]

Oh yeah, also was going to ask can I overclock my RAM Mushkin Redline DDR3 PC3-14900

from 1866Ghz to 2133Ghz as both of the M/B's I was looking at support 2133 RAM speeds.

 

[xdaax]

The optimal solution for video-editing would be an 3930K, but since you have got mobo etc. for an AMD system it is no option for you.

Because video-editing is cpu intensive, you should get as much cores as possible and go with the FX-8150 and maybe Oc it as high as your cooling provides.

But mention that a FX-8150 with high oc is stil slower than a 3930k on stock

 

[LA_Hegarty]

The 3930K would be nice but at £370.00+ its a little out of my price range right now, I have not bought the M/B or the CPU although the block on the water cooling I bought does work with AM2/3+ (ZM-WB5), I could get a ZM-WB5 Plus block that will work with Intel Socket's 2011/1155/1156/775.

if was to buy a Intel Core i7-3820 Passmark 9678 at £225

its says that that it supports DDR3-1066/1333/1600,

http://ark.intel.com/products/63698/Intel-Core-i7-3820-Processor-(10M-Cache-3_60-GHz)

does this mean even if the M/B supports DDR3 2400/2133/1866 it will only run at 1600?

 

[dugdiamond]

wait.... save up.... and go intel.... you will not be sorry

faildozer is not yet perfected. it is using a 'modded' 990FX chipset, that it was not originally intended to use.

remember, it is not the speed of the cpu's clock that counts, but how efficiently and quickly it can calculate. period!

an intel chip @ 4GHz can 'out-smart 'an AMD similar chip at the same speed. it's all down to architecture

 

[xdaax]

if was to buy a Intel Core i7-3820 Passmark 9678 at £225

its says that that it supports DDR3-1066/1333/1600,

http://ark.intel.com...Cache-3_60-GHz)

In my opinion this cpu is no option, because either you will upgrade to a 3930k, so you would spend more money than by going directly with a 3930k, or you will keep the cpu without upgrading.In the first case you should raise some money to directly buy a 3930k. In the second case you should get a Z77 board with either a 3770k or a 2(6/7)00k which are about the same price but the mobos for Z77 are way much cheaper than the X79 ones. Additionally the 3820 is only partially unlocked and not like the 3930k or the ones for the socket 1155 who are fully unlocked. When you plan to overclock you should prefer the 2(6/7)00k before the 3770k because IB has some thermal problems when they are overclocked.

In conclusion the 3820 is no option for me.

 

[xdaax]

for overclocking you should gat a new psu as well. how old is your current one?

do you have any active radiator in your wc loop?

 

[PetrolHead247]

Definitely avoid Bulldozer at all costs. A i5 2500K (or Ivy Bridge 3570K) performs around the same (if not better in some cases) than an FX-8150, and the i7's demolishes it completely. In single threaded applications the i5's completely own the Bulldozer chips and In a couple benchmarks even the old top 6 Core Phenoms (1090T, 95T and 1100T) beat the FX-8150.

So in short, forget Bulldozer and go Intel

 

[Master&Puppet]

Agree with the above about BD but if you were looking at the 8150 then it's only £20 more for a 2600k which is so much better...

Alternatively you could consider an 2011 build with a 3820 for the moment if you were ever expecting to want to upgrade but the mobos are more expensive.

You will also need a new psu. The BDs are notorius power hogs and believe it or not the 8150 by itself will consume the entire wattage of that psu. The 2500k is the same performance for half the watts but you still need to get a branded 500W+ to be honest.

 

[LA_Hegarty]

remember, it is not the speed of the cpu's clock that counts, but how efficiently and quickly it can calculate. period!

Dugdiamond I'm looking at benchmarks, not clock speeds.

for overclocking you should gat a new psu as well. how old is your current one?

do you have any active radiator in your wc loop?

its quite an old one and yes it will be an active radiator in on the wc loop.

Does anyone have answers to these questions?

Q.1

Oh yeah, also was going to ask can I overclock my RAM Mushkin Redline DDR3 PC3-14900

from 1866Ghz to 2133Ghz as both of the M/B's I was looking at support 2133 RAM speeds.

Q.2

if was to buy a Intel Core i7-3820 or 3930K at its says that that it supports DDR3-1066/1333/1600 on the itell specs page

http://ark.intel.com...Cache-3_60-GHz)

Does this mean even if the M/B supports DDR3 2400/2133/1866 it will only run at 1600?

 

[PetrolHead247]

No you can run ram up to 2400Mhz on 2011 as the mobo supports those speeds. However, some 2011 chips can't run RAM at over 2133MHz, but that speed is lightning quick so that's not a problem

 

[LA_Hegarty]

So this

ASRock X79 Extreme6 Desktop Motherboard £200

http://www.asrock.co...=X79%20Extreme6

With this is

Intel Core i7 3930K £380

http://ark.intel.com...Cache-3_20-GHz)

in an ideal world

=£580 Quite a lot.

Intel Core i7-3930K Passmark 13604, OC 16,596

=£580 With Board

Intel Core i7-3820K Passmark 9678, OC 11,175

=£400 With Board

AMD FX-8150 Eight-Core Passmark 8245, OC 9,679

=£300 With Board

AMD FX-4100 Quad-Core, Passmark: 3,984, OC 4,774

=£200 With Board, Cheap and cheerful world

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I do like that the ASRock X79 Extreme6 has 8 DIMM slots but its still a lot of coin!

+ I'd need a new power supply but may need that any way..

 

[xdaax]

+ I'd need a new power supply but may need that any way..

go with a tx 650 from corsair it will handle average oc and single gpu without problems.

 

[LA_Hegarty]

So I ended up going intel just bought a SUPERMICRO X8STE server board with a Intel Core i7 920

also came with 6Gb Ram, 3x500Gb HD's, Case, Power Supply, Rom drive, £250.

May put it in the Antec case if it fits..

SATA2, same as my SSD's, upto 24Gb's of RAM.

i7 920

Passmark 5,515, OC 7,160

it will see me few to the end of the year nicely & I can always upgrade to a i7-980X or Xeon CPU.. whatever I find at the time.