Budget cooling rig

[Genesius]

Ok, so if you've seen my previous post about my werid Ehiem pump thing then you will see what im going to be using to get the water flowing.

Im in 2 minds where to go custom loop or get a H100i (already have a H100) what temp differences would there be between custom & H100i?


What i need now is a radiator (probably a 360 maybe a 240 on your recomendations)

a CPU block

tubing and connectors not botherd about colours as im using distilled water as i have no case window

small resevoir

thats it.

i need a fast flowing system and want to have the fan speeds low. Oh, they system will probably hold 4litres!

ill get some yate loons or GT's outside of that budget

 

[SeekaX]

low budget and custom waterloop doesn't mix well. go for an AIO solution

 

[Genesius]

I don't think it's that low of a budget. Around £70. I already have a pump just need advice on CPU block and rad.

Also wanted to know what temps I could expect over an all in one option. 10 degrees better?

 

[SeekaX]

I don't think it's that low of a budget. Around £70. I already have a pump just need advice on CPU block and rad.

Also wanted to know what temps I could expect over an all in one option. 10 degrees better?

70 pounds for rad, block, fittings, tubing, liquid and reservoir? no way.

 

[Cru]

this is really not going to work well with that kind of budget. as said, go with some AIO cooler or save up some more money

 

[Genesius]

around £70.

rad block and fittings is all i really need to worry about as the tubing is reletively cheap as is distilled water. Theres no point in buying anything other than that, if i want glycol i can get that from work but i didnt think glycol made much of a difference thermally until you get to near freezing.

i think £70 may be tight but if i can bring it in under £100 then thats fine. i just said £70 as i dont want to break the £100 barrier.

As far as i can work out the res is just a plasic box so that wont affect performance at all. ive worked out that my pump will pump at 700lph with a 0 head so about 550 with rad and block restrictions.

id even use second hand stuff, but the major question is what performance increase will there be over a H100i? the system will hold a ton of water, probably close to 6ltrs.

Im just trying to reuse some bits i have and fashion them into a half decent cooling system, but only if its going to out perform what i currently have.

is the Thermochill PA120.3 still a good rad?

 

[SeekaX]

around £70.

rad block and fittings is all i really need to worry about as the tubing is reletively cheap as is distilled water. Theres no point in buying anything other than that, if i want glycol i can get that from work but i didnt think glycol made much of a difference thermally until you get to near freezing.

i think £70 may be tight but if i can bring it in under £100 then thats fine. i just said £70 as i dont want to break the £100 barrier.

As far as i can work out the res is just a plasic box so that wont affect performance at all. ive worked out that my pump will pump at 700lph with a 0 head so about 550 with rad and block restrictions.

id even use second hand stuff, but the major question is what performance increase will there be over a H100i? the system will hold a ton of water, probably close to 6ltrs.

Im just trying to reuse some bits i have and fashion them into a half decent cooling system, but only if its going to out perform what i currently have.

you won't even get a rad and a block for less than 100 pounds.

 

[Genesius]

nay sayers! lol.

not everything has to be a fortune and new and shiney. it has to be neat and function.

so..... is the PA120.3 still a pretty good rad?
what are the advantages temperature wise of a custom loop over an all in one closed loop system?

can anyone answer the last question?

 

[SeekaX]

nay sayers! lol.

not everything has to be a fortune and new and shiney. it has to be neat and function.

mate it just doesnt make any sense to do that. get an all in one kit, the h100i doesnt perform that much worse than a custom loop.

 

[Genesius]

I already have a H100.

I have just picked up a thermochill 360 rad and 3 GT's for £50!

So that's £50 left for a block and connectors.

So what recommendations please.

 

[SeekaX]

I already have a H100.

I have just picked up a thermochill 360 rad and 3 GT's for £50!

So that's £50 left for a block and connectors.

So what recommendations please.

i don't see the point in a budget custom loop if you don't put the GPU in as well, especially if you already have an h100. even in the 100 pounds range that is a waste of money.

 

[Genesius]

i think price is pretty irrelevant.

Ive got a decent rad and fans for £50. But cost price would be rad=£65 fans £45 so thats £110.

now i have £50 to get a block and connectors. a res can be bought used for a few £. EK do a block for £30 how good it is compaired to the more expensive one i dont know but im sure a high flow rate and some lapping would help it out a little.

the reason for the custom loop is expandability yes, but also better and more stable temps in my goal to run over 5ghz.

Yes i agree that adding the GPU is the best idea, and i would/will, but finding a block for a 560ti is pretty hard and when they do come up they are very expensive for what is now a £100 card. So once i buy a 670 i'll save up and get a block for that.

im sorry for not just backing down and skulking off into the corner, but i fail to see what my budget rig using new and used parts cannot do over say a £300 rig. if i have already got a rad and fans for less than half retail price, whos to say i cant get a £300 loop but just pay £70 to £100 for the bits?

im not really seeing what the issue is but i do understand that you guys are only trying to help, and after all, thats why im here, but im a damn good bargain hunter - i just need to know what im hunting for!

ok so, im presuming that my choice of connectors is barbs or compression and im also presuming that it doesnt matter on make or model or type - but as presumption is the mother of all fook ups can someone confim please.

again - tubing is tubing - im not intrested in dyes or coloured tubing and the inlets/outlets on the items i buy will dictate the size - presumption again.

cpu blocks - iknow there is a ton of difference here, material, channel sizes, restrictions, a whole heap of variables. So could someone advise me on say a £30 block and maybe what else to look out for above that that i could pick up used?

i may not be doing things the normal way but if i wanted to be 'normal' id buy a Dell!

Funny story - i have a dell laptop (iknow, the shame) called them today to get a warrenty repair, the 'Hardware technical help team member' didnt know what a GPU was. - great stuff.

Thanks

 

[Ru5ty_t00l]

the system will hold a ton of water, probably close to 6ltrs.

not even close m8 .

 

[Genesius]

not even close m8 .

Do you want to explain? Or have you fallen into the trap of not reading the whole thread?

Ill break it down for ya!

My pump/filter/repurposed eheim holds 2.5litres with filer media, but 5 litres without. So that's 5litres straight away. (It may just be me, but I'd say that even 5 litres is pretty close to 6)

Then 360 rad, tubing, small res, block - I recon a litre or more. So please explain to me how my estimation of 6 litres is 'not even close' mate.

Now, granted I did say it would hold 'a ton of water' which in fact is nowhere near '6 litres' however, I am English and the terms 'a ton of water', and 'a ton of bricks' are merely idioms.

So please, pray tell good sir!

Ok everybody. I'm new to this, but not stupid. I have been on here trying to help where I can and asking and for the most part getting help.

However this thread right here is pointless! I have asked questions and no one has answered. All you can dwell on is the money side. You think everything is impossible. What's up with you lot?

Have I somehow offended? Does the word 'budget' tear at the very heart of the OC community?

All I'm trying to do is find out some answers. I wanted a cooling loop for as close to £70 as possible but under £100.

I asked if the thermochill radiator was still any good - your answers = can't do budget cooling. (Since found out it is good, many thinks its one of the best and still performs admirably)


I asked on recommendations for a block at the budget end - your answers = can't do budget cooling.

Can you see why this is frustrating? Why it doesn't help?

I've already explained that I have a pump [a fooking huge one ;-)]

I am already running a H100 but want better temps, more liquid and I higher flow rate/ bigger rad should help.

I don't know why there is this attitude that things can't be done well for little money?

The whole essence of OCing is extracting the most performance from something - increasing the bang for buck - pushing something you got for one price so that it competes with something much more expensive.

The whole OC thing is to do with getting more for less so why the brick wall here?

Going to drink beer - rant over

 

[SeekaX]

Ok everybody. I'm new to this, but not stupid. I have been on here trying to help where I can and asking and for the most part getting help.

However this thread right here is pointless! I have asked questions and no one has answered. All you can dwell on is the money side. You think everything is impossible. What's up with you lot?

Have I somehow offended? Does the word 'budget' tear at the very heart of the OC community?

All I'm trying to do is find out some answers. I wanted a cooling loop for as close to £70 as possible but under £100.

I asked if the thermochill radiator was still any good - your answers = can't do budget cooling. (Since found out it is good, many thinks its one of the best and still performs admirably)


I asked on recommendations for a block at the budget end - your answers = can't do budget cooling.

Can you see why this is frustrating? Why it doesn't help?

I've already explained that I have a pump [a fooking huge one ;-)]

I am already running a H100 but want better temps, more liquid and I higher flow rate/ bigger rad should help.

I don't know why there is this attitude that things can't be done well for little money?

The whole essence of OCing is extracting the most performance from something - increasing the bang for buck - pushing something you got for one price so that it competes with something much more expensive.

The whole OC thing is to do with getting more for less so why the brick wall here?

Going to drink beer - rant over

we answered. our answer was it is not worth it to build a custom loop for under 100 pounds, especially if you arent even going to wc the gpu. you just didn't care.

 

[iBeInspire]

People gave their opinions mate, you can't ask for more than that.

As to your dilemma, pointless as it is, any block from a well known manufacturer (EK, Alphacool, Phobya ect.) should do within a few degrees of a £80+ block... I'd go for one of these, or buy used ~

 

[Genesius]

SeekaX you didn't answer any of my questions. I didn't once ask if people thought it was worth it. I didn't enquire about gpu cooling. What you did was offer an opinion about what I'm trying to do, but you didn't answer anything. Your opinion has been noted though and I do understand that if I were trying to build an entire system new for £100 it would be impossible.

IBeInspire firstly thank you for giving me an actual answer. I didn't once ask for anyone's opinion on what I am trying to do, just on parts. So yes, I can ask for more than that, but aparantly it won't be answered/people have never tried/ they just don't know.
'As to your dilemma, pointless as it is' - wow, it's not a dilemma. I didn't say I was stuck or struggling. Why is it pointless? Because of budget? Because you would rather spend hundreds more to achieve the same? You don't think it can be done?

Ok so he's what I'll do as I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who has budgets.
I'll come back to this thread when it's done.

This subject it just winding me up now so ill just leave the questions for now and I'll be back right here in a couple of weeks

Thanks

 

[CSheldon]

Block, i'd either go for an XSPC one, there really good, they give good temps also, or if your on a budget, there as some nice looking EK blocks out there.

 

[iBeInspire]

SeekaX you didn't answer any of my questions. I didn't once ask if people thought it was worth it. I didn't enquire about gpu cooling. What you did was offer an opinion about what I'm trying to do, but you didn't answer anything. Your opinion has been noted though and I do understand that if I were trying to build an entire system new for £100 it would be impossible.

IBeInspire firstly thank you for giving me an actual answer. I didn't once ask for anyone's opinion on what I am trying to do, just on parts. So yes, I can ask for more than that, but aparantly it won't be answered/people have never tried/ they just don't know.
'As to your dilemma, pointless as it is' - wow, it's not a dilemma. I didn't say I was stuck or struggling. Why is it pointless? Because of budget? Because you would rather spend hundreds more to achieve the same? You don't think it can be done?

Ok so he's what I'll do as I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who has budgets.
I'll come back to this thread when it's done.

This subject it just winding me up now so ill just leave the questions for now and I'll be back right here in a couple of weeks

Thanks

Dilemma in general...
Also, as a general rule; watercooling should not be done cheaply hence why I think what your doing is pointless...
WC should make a rig beautiful, silent and cool (temp wise), but you'll be lucky if you achieve one of those...

But don't take my word for it, prove me wrong

 

[SeekaX]

Dilemma in general...
Also, as a general rule; watercooling should not be done cheaply hence why I think what your doing is pointless...
WC should make a rig beautiful, silent and cool (temp wise), but you'll be lucky if you achieve one of those...

But don't take my word for it, prove me wrong

don't even care anymore. he asked for opinions, he asked for what it would benefit him. i told him what he didn't want to hear, so he is pissed.