WYP
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Finally, an RTX 3080 at its UK MSRP...
Read more about ASUS' RTX 3080 10GB being available for £649.99.
Read more about ASUS' RTX 3080 10GB being available for £649.99.
ASUS' RTX 3080 TUF Gaming OC is now available for £649.99 in the UK
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Dicehunter
Resident Newb
The fatties at the top in OCUK must absolutely hate that prices are coming down.
AlienALX
Well-known member
They'll still be earning the same.
A business model works on a percentage. You charge a certain percentage plus VAT to make it work.
So basically? OCUK were not all that guilty of gouging.
You can't pay Asus, as an example here, £700 for a GPU and then sell it for £649.
What has happened here is as simple as Asus dropping their prices. OCUK are buying cheaper meaning they can sell cheaper.
That's how business works.
Dawelio
Active member
Is this just for the UK and US? Since everytime an GPU has gone down in price in an article here or Youtube video for the UK, US etc, it’s never in Scandinavia lol. Annoying.
AlienALX
Well-known member
With absolutely no warranty from sketchy sellers and have spent thier life in a mining farm.
Remember this. Gamers don't sell their GPU.
AlienALX
Well-known member
Well it's hard to say since you only say Scandinavia.
What I can tell you though is that Sweden, for example, is an expensive country to live in. As is Norway.
My brother went to Sweden once and told me a Mars bar cost 3x as much as it does in London, where basically it costs twice as much as the rest of the UK. Taxes, apparently.
Check komplett again. Norway prices have almost halved.
Dawelio
Active member
Nice for you, but nope, even an 3070 Ti is still over $1000 here lol.
except its not.
https://www.komplett.se/product/118...ikkort/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-gaming-oc
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Dawelio
Active member
Ah true, although I thought we were talking about the ASUS TUF series, since this threads title. And I'm not a huge fan of Gigabyte, since their exploding PSUs and loss of warranty claims when their server was hacked or whatever the incident was now. Which they didn't stand behind towards their customers either.
There are multiple GPUs all under the 9000kr mark now. Even the 3080ti or 3090ti is dropping rapidly. Price difference between the two a small amount compared to release prices
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Greg Salazar and Tech Yes City are quite confident in encouraging people to buy used GPUs.
AlienALX
Well-known member
I don't know much about boppo (Greg). Apart from the fact he has a really large head and gets really angry and passive aggressive a lot. I hope he has calmed his batty down tbh, as his raging got on my tits.
As for TYC? he talks out of his arse for the most part. He definitely knows a lot about the world financial market, so fair play for that, but when it comes to how GPUs work and how to *cough* "fix" them? he doesn't know his backside from his elbow.
I just had a look but could not find it, but Buildzoid did a reaction video to his method of "repairing" GPUs and pointed out that it was actually very dangerous and should not be practiced by any one.
Talking of whom. If you want solid advice from someone who knows more about onions than the guy who invented onions? he is your man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T0npiqjEWQ&ab_channel=ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
To put it short? GDDR6, especially X, has a very finite life. And mining is not kind to it one bit.
As I said before, you get no warranty. You have absolutely no idea whatsoever what sort of life the card has lived and have to fly by the seat of your pants. Given GPUs are such expensive items? the risk is all down to you. However, with inflated GPU prices that risk, IMO, becomes not worth taking UNLESS the card is stupid cheap.
And by stupid cheap I mean, stupid cheap. I bought an ex mining Vega 64 after the first crash for something daft like £200. However, it could not run at stock clocks and I had pink screen crashing every now and then. Which was a minor pain, and like I say I only paid £200 for it so had it died? it wouldn't have been a big financial loss to me. Quick round of wound licking and I could have bought something else.
However, at £500+ and up to £800? it's a much bigger risk.
GPUs run hot. The newer ones run even hotter. However, usually when I have a fault with one? its basically beyond repair. I paid £480 for a 2080Ti Xtreme and the VRAM is dodgy. And you can't replace it, even if you were able, because you cant buy it. Thankfully with lowered clocks on the VRAM it has been fine under water. It wouldn't work at all on air. However, given it has now provided me over two years of loyal service? I don't mind at all. I have had my use out of it, so if and when it totally dies I will have been happy with it.
AlienALX
Well-known member
Guys. Apologies for waffling about this, but it matters to me. I don't like people getting screwed, so I just want you to be armed with knowledge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC6gDoSwWf4&ab_channel=RandomGaminginHD
That is a prime example of an end user buying an ex mining GPU. He said it was cheap, IDK if he goes into how much but the video is quite alarming.
Firstly the thermal paste has totally dried up, and the temps are insane. How long was it running like that? you will have no idea sadly. Also, the thermal pads on the memory are damaged and also very dry. And this is the area that should alarm you ! very much.
A while back I tried to run the Xtreme 2080Ti I mentioned in the previous post on its air cooler, having bought it with a water block on it. Because the "pads" were those string type affairs pumped full of thick thermal compound they were gone.
At this point I tried in vain to find out the thermal pad thickness, but it is actually a trade secret, according to Gigabyte themselves ! I was absolutely infuriated at this.
Having tried several methods of getting the pads correct (because there is no easy magic bullet way) I gave up and put the card back on a water block. Which came with thermal pads, that fitted with the water block. Obviously those self destructive ones can not be measured safely.
It was a major pain in the balls. And one I never really got a proper answer to. The wax type pads are the same. Not intended for more than one use, and not designed to have the memory cooking itself 24/7 in mining.
Now Steve (the guy in the video above) knows how to take a card apart and repaste it and etc. However, many don't, and you would be AMAZED how easy it is to damage and or break a card just by doing so.
So, armed with that information please decide if you are prepared to take the risk. Like I said, if anything is cheap enough it is sometimes worth said risk. If you are depending on it and can not afford to lose all of your money? look elsewhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC6gDoSwWf4&ab_channel=RandomGaminginHD
That is a prime example of an end user buying an ex mining GPU. He said it was cheap, IDK if he goes into how much but the video is quite alarming.
Firstly the thermal paste has totally dried up, and the temps are insane. How long was it running like that? you will have no idea sadly. Also, the thermal pads on the memory are damaged and also very dry. And this is the area that should alarm you ! very much.
A while back I tried to run the Xtreme 2080Ti I mentioned in the previous post on its air cooler, having bought it with a water block on it. Because the "pads" were those string type affairs pumped full of thick thermal compound they were gone.
At this point I tried in vain to find out the thermal pad thickness, but it is actually a trade secret, according to Gigabyte themselves ! I was absolutely infuriated at this.
Having tried several methods of getting the pads correct (because there is no easy magic bullet way) I gave up and put the card back on a water block. Which came with thermal pads, that fitted with the water block. Obviously those self destructive ones can not be measured safely.
It was a major pain in the balls. And one I never really got a proper answer to. The wax type pads are the same. Not intended for more than one use, and not designed to have the memory cooking itself 24/7 in mining.
Now Steve (the guy in the video above) knows how to take a card apart and repaste it and etc. However, many don't, and you would be AMAZED how easy it is to damage and or break a card just by doing so.
So, armed with that information please decide if you are prepared to take the risk. Like I said, if anything is cheap enough it is sometimes worth said risk. If you are depending on it and can not afford to lose all of your money? look elsewhere.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
I honestly would never buy a used GPU unless it was from a close friend that I knew looked after his stuff as good as I look after my own.
AlienALX
Well-known member
Ah yes, there is that too. Quite a few times I have bought cards and they are covered in scratches, gouges and thermal paste. The Xtreme 2080ti was just like that. I really don't know how the heck people manage it tbh, must be bloody ham fisted ! It also had paste all over it, a real bugbear of mine.
Dawelio
Active member
Yeah, I am in the same camp on this one to be honest. GPUs are such an expensive item and you can never know what people might have done to it, both physically and software related that could cause physical tear on the card itself.
So GPUs are always a new purchase for me regardless.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
You're right. Buildzoid is definitely a more authoritative voice on this.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
That and I've seen first hand how people handle their things, I simply don't trust most people when it comes to treating delicate items with care.
Last used card I bought was a 1080 for a build I was doing for a family member, Heatsink was bent and the PCI-E power socket was hanging off, Got my money back but never again.
