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The world's first official custom Navi graphics cards.
Read more about ASRock's RX 5700 Challenger OC series of GPUs.
Read more about ASRock's RX 5700 Challenger OC series of GPUs.
ASRock reveals their RX 5700 Challenger OC series of GPUs
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AngryGoldfish
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Hmmm... maybe AIB partners won't be adding big overclocks after all.
AlienALX
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They're not going to want to break the tdp too much. They'll leave you to consume over 300w yourself.
A while back I said that I was worried that Navi may be hot and a power guzzler. Apparently at 2.2ghz under water it consumes 330w. Not sure whether that was the whole rig or just the card but yeah. Not good really.
Was similar with the 1366 CPUs. Overclocking was great but so we're the power consumption totals.
Well ASRock used to be part of ASUS so maybe ASUS dumped the personel they had in surplus or were less impressed with into ASRock when they bought themselves out.
That was GPU draw for sure. At 2100mhz core / 1200mhz HBM, I can make my Radeon VII *alone* suck nearly 400W from the wall depending on load (I saw a peak of 384W).
AlienALX
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Nah it's lightweight. That's why AMD did the bait and switch with prices because they knew Nvidia couldn't drop prices too much because they're back on tank cores.
Best decision AMD tech have made in years tbh.
AlienALX
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The first thing that went through my mind when they announced the initial prices was "That's too much, end of". When they revised the price I still thought it was too much, but the lesser of two evils, so to speak.
I still think that had the Turing RTX cards not launched these would have been Polaris prices. Maybe a little more for the GDDR6, but yeah not as much as this.
Thing is? the initial price wasn't even a price because at that time there were no cards to buy. So really they could have said any price but until someone pays it and it ships it's just hyperbole.
I posted this on another forum when they initially put the prices out. I had no idea they were about to drop them...
AMD - "let's put out our mid range Navi at a Nvidia like price before we've even launched it"
Nvidia - "quick, someone is stealing our thunder, release moar lolprice Super cards"
AMD - "OK, now let's adjust our price before it's even been released, getting the same price for this mid range card that we were getting for our very expensive to make Vega cards"
IMO AMD will still be quids in. There were leaks naming these cards as 600 series, with prices £100 less than those AMD have settled on. And Nvidia made sure of that.
Vega 56 was around £340 recently, Navi has to be cheaper to make.
Let's also not forget that these prices are still an utter joke, and not get Intel Syndrome and think they're doing us a favour like the time Intel released that £185 2c 4t I3.
I was just basing that on the rumours I had heard about them being far cheaper. I would also surmise that AMD probably thought Nvidia would drop prices, hence the low leaked prices. Instead Nvidia fell right into the trap. The AMD guy is right, they timed it perfectly and had the upper hand for the first time in a long while. Usually they are playing catchup because Nvidia are miles ahead in every category. This time due to Nvidia's LOLprice they left the middle market wide open for AMD.
I don't think we'd be seeing Polaris prices, these are bigger dies on a newer node, less mature than Polaris's 14nm was on launch, with much more expensive memory and a new architecture that took years of R&D, also can't really compare prices to old almost written off stock. But I also don't think Radeon group can afford to settle for risky slim-non existent margins anymore when they've not be making big losses for so many years, the CPU & semi-custom divisions profits can only pull that weight for so long.
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