ASRock Confirms AMD BIOS Support for Next-Gen Ryzen - A320 will be limited

[WYP]

No Zen 2 support for A320?



Read more about ASRock's plans to support next-generation Ryzen processors on today's AM4 motherboards.

 

[AlienALX]

Is any one surprised? it's like saying here, take this 18 core Skylake E chip and run it on your Z81 motherboard.

 

[g0ggles1994]

Is any one surprised? it's like saying here, take this 18 core Skylake E chip and run it on your Z81 motherboard.

Agreed, but I think a lot of people's concerns were the Ryzen APUs and possibly Ryzen 3 lineup.
I think AMD really need to refresh their lineup of low cost Quad Cores for low end systems and OEMs. If the leaks are true that Ryzen 3 will be a hexa-core, Athlon should become a quad core.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Well you also have to take into account power requirements and chipset limitations. Sure they more be more efficient but if AMD still added another 8 cores for Ryzen that's still going to require a certain degree of robustness that the cheap boards will lack. If they decide to support the low end stuff it just confuses the buyer and segregates the product stack. Sure it may not confuse us but we all know how computer illiterate people are..

 

[ET3D]

If the leaks are true that Ryzen 3 will be a hexa-core, Athlon should become a quad core.

We currently have conflicting links of a 6 core Ryzen 3 and 4 core Ryzen 5 3400G. They don't go well together, and I tend to believe the 3400G's existence more.

If they decide to support the low end stuff it just confuses the buyer and segregates the product stack.

My ASRock AB350M-HDV supports only CPUs up to 65W, and far as I understand has Ryzen 3000 support in its latest BIOS. So I can't see power as a reason to not expand such support to A320. Also, AMD said that Ryzen 3000 will have the same TDPs as Ryzen 2000.

 

[grec]

We currently have conflicting links of a 6 core Ryzen 3 and 4 core Ryzen 5 3400G. They don't go well together, and I tend to believe the 3400G's existence more.

The 3000G parts are unrelated to Zen2. G parts are a generation behind non-G for each series and AMDs confirmed that Zen+ APUs are coming as 3000 series parts in mobile while recent delidding of desktop 3000G parts confirm they're also Zen+.

However, 4C/8T are still sold as Ryzen5 non-G so I doubt they're going to drop two steps down out the Ryzen family altogether, especially when yields are still not as good as Zen1, unless Epyc is sucking up all the defect dies. Post-APU Athlon parts have always so far been cut from the APUs and there's no Zen2 APUs for quite a while so any upcoming Athlon's would likely be Zen+ leaving open Ryzen 3 for 4c/8t and 6c/12t(Bringing HT across the board)

My ASRock AB350M-HDV supports only CPUs up to 65W, and far as I understand has Ryzen 3000 support in its latest BIOS. So I can't see power as a reason to not expand such support to A320. Also, AMD said that Ryzen 3000 will have the same TDPs as Ryzen 2000.

Not even Zen+ had the same TDP as Zen1, with a 10W increase to 105W. From mobo listings so far it seems more or less confirmed that max TDP will increase to 125W for the very top end parts, another 20Wish for an X part to give the higher core counts room to breath seems inevitable, especially since many consumer boards can handle 125W fine. (Unless they start doing an Intel and listing 150W+ processors with a 95W TDP or whatever like with the 9900K anyway. )

I think all the info regarding R3 starting at 6C and having crazy 3000G APUs are from an AdoredTV set of "leaks" that have already fallen flat in a few aspects and had some clear errors out the gate.

 

[NeverBackDown]

We currently have conflicting links of a 6 core Ryzen 3 and 4 core Ryzen 5 3400G. They don't go well together, and I tend to believe the 3400G's existence more.



My ASRock AB350M-HDV supports only CPUs up to 65W, and far as I understand has Ryzen 3000 support in its latest BIOS. So I can't see power as a reason to not expand such support to A320. Also, AMD said that Ryzen 3000 will have the same TDPs as Ryzen 2000.

Because the next gen Zen CPU will have more cores. It'll have higher power consumption. So I stand corrected in saying it'll separate the product stack by limiting what can go with what. People will see it supports Ryzen 3 but not 5 or 7 and it'll just confuse them.