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One last hurrah for AM4 - AMD's launches their affordable Ryzen 7 5700X3D for PC gamers.
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AMD's Ryzen 7 5700X3D is now available to purchase
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AlienALX
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Well then HURRAH !
That's super duper ironic. For over a week I have been sizing up upgrading my 3950x. Board is superb (X570I Strix) but the RAM is a bit cack so I knew I would need better RAM to see a difference too.
Problem is the 5800X3D IMO costs too much. So I have had two saved carts, one with a 5800X3D in and 32gb good RAM, another with a B760 board 14600k and RAM in and a last one with a 7800X3D and the trimmings.
Turns out that not pulling the trigger has just saved me about £60. A much fairer price, IMO, so I have pounced.
That's super duper ironic. For over a week I have been sizing up upgrading my 3950x. Board is superb (X570I Strix) but the RAM is a bit cack so I knew I would need better RAM to see a difference too.
Problem is the 5800X3D IMO costs too much. So I have had two saved carts, one with a 5800X3D in and 32gb good RAM, another with a B760 board 14600k and RAM in and a last one with a 7800X3D and the trimmings.
Turns out that not pulling the trigger has just saved me about £60. A much fairer price, IMO, so I have pounced.
KingNosser
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If this had been an option when I got my 5800x then yep I'd have got one as well.
AlienALX
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I just couldn't bring myself to pay £300+ for a 58x3d. Obviously I wanted a X3D, as my 3950x still does pretty well in gaming, so it had to be a 3d for me. Because I will use it for gaming and it needs to be a sizeable upgrade.
I almost went with a 14600KF and 760 board. Mostly because I think AMD were being far too greedy with the 58x3d.
This? perfect. Absolutely perfect. Cost just a little bit more than the 58x3d only I got some killer RAM to put with it (the last 32gb I bought was total pants). That said, nothing will go to waste. I shall put that 32gb in my 11400F server where it will be much better than for gaming
KingNosser
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Well I had a choice at the time get a 5800X at £220 or pay £330+ or whatever it was at launch for a x3d version, it was an easy choice for me to make at them prices, but this i'd have jumped at it myself, but now I'm not going too as it's not enough of a boost for me in my setup now but years back of course.
With my current setup i'm not even looking at main system upgrades currently now, think it'll be some years before i spend more as amd AFMF is huge for me. So all upgrades on hold until i see something i'm really excited for again.
Thou the laptop i ordered mildly excited for that old is gold as they say
Thou it's a positive thing that any AM4 is getting manufactured as it's an extremely viable platform still and for new people coming into the market far cheaper for them to build a system and get up and running.
Zen5 thou is going to be very good, but there maybe by Zen7 I'll be ready just not sure right now.
With my current setup i'm not even looking at main system upgrades currently now, think it'll be some years before i spend more as amd AFMF is huge for me. So all upgrades on hold until i see something i'm really excited for again.
Thou the laptop i ordered mildly excited for that old is gold as they say
Thou it's a positive thing that any AM4 is getting manufactured as it's an extremely viable platform still and for new people coming into the market far cheaper for them to build a system and get up and running.
Zen5 thou is going to be very good, but there maybe by Zen7 I'll be ready just not sure right now.
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I so agree with you; must say I'm surprised it launched at this price i was expecting it to come a little more expensive, I can't justify upgrading now as I just moved and I'm paying for new furniture... But I will certainly be upgrading my 3700X for this 5700X3D this year, and I'm sooo glad this isn't another limited production thing like the 5600X3D was.
AlienALX
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Well they are crafty 'cause we never got the 5600X3D like the yankees did !
I reckon they are just failed 5800X3D tbh. Or just reboxed to save throwing them out.
Either way? I am very happy. Looks like it just edges out the 13600K, so I would have had to step up to the 14600K to get more performance and that had a stiffer cost (around £550 IIRC).
AlienALX
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BTW this slide.
Is what made me decide. If that is true (and I have no reason to doubt it, given it is an official slide) then I deffo made the right choice.
No one ever benches PUBG any more, which is really stupid given how many people still play it. But yeah if that is true? even the 14900k would struggle to match that.
Is what made me decide. If that is true (and I have no reason to doubt it, given it is an official slide) then I deffo made the right choice.
No one ever benches PUBG any more, which is really stupid given how many people still play it. But yeah if that is true? even the 14900k would struggle to match that.
Dawelio
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Really? From the few videos I've seen that mentions the game says it's pretty much dead and when activity it's just so filled with cheats that it's no fun anymore.
AlienALX
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Nah that is a myth dude. I mean, there are cheaters, but recently they have been very hot on it and actually publish the ban list.
They released a new map recently (Rondo) and every one is playing it. Shroud, Doc, Choco and etc.
It will always have a following.
Many reviewers don't review games that people actually play. IE, BRs. They do Fortnite but that is it. Given most gamers (and I mean a huge majority) play Esports titles it seems a bit odd to me.
That said no matter how small a game is so long as it is active people want to see how it performs. Otherwise you are buying blind, know what I mean? IE taking a random crapshoot hoping you bought the right products.
Luckily when it comes to GPUs I know that UE performs better in raster on AMD, so I have bought three AMD GPUs. I wasn't wrong either. Don't have any of the nightmare crashing Nvidia owners are treated to.
RobM
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They probably don't because esports titles tend to be a lot less demanding than AAA story titles.
AlienALX
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I suppose it depends on what you consider less demanding. 360hz screens and etc are demanding, so it is very important especially to those who compete.
IMO it is just laziness. They bench the games that are easy to bench with built in benchmarks and don't bench the ones that are not.
AlienALX
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OK so it went so so.
Took the PC apart, fitted new RAM and CPU, booted it and got this long ass message on the screen in red (from the BIOS) saying that TPM had changed due to a change in hardware. TBH? I had no idea what the hell it was going on about, so I just said "yes" and pressed Y.
Booted to the login screen for Win 10 and it said my pin had been disabled due to a change in TPM. Tried to change said pin, but it wanted to send a text to a phone number I haven't had for over a year. *SIGH*. Reinstalled Win 11 (was all I had available ready to go) and started to tinker. I then noticed the CPU was only clocking to 3.4ghz so I looked at the BIOS version and sure enough X3d support did not arrive until after the BIOS I had on there.
Updated the BIOS and........ Same message about TPM, same BS can't get in.
Reinstall Windows 11 for the second time and yeah, now it's done FFS. What a ball ache !
Still, it was worth it. Set DOCP after getting very confused (forgot how to do that tbh, last three builds have all been Intel where it is much clearer !) and PUBG now flies. Getting at least 30 FPS higher, and sometimes over 50. So it is deffo CPU reliant even at 1440p, but it would be because I have a lot of settings on medium and low (ones that don't matter) in order to gain higher FPS, so it puts more load on the CPU.
So yeah overall very happy, just could have done without all the aggro. BTW you can change your phone number on MSN, but it takes 30 days ffs.
So I have disabled phone as the 2FA, and changed it to my secondary email addy.
Took the PC apart, fitted new RAM and CPU, booted it and got this long ass message on the screen in red (from the BIOS) saying that TPM had changed due to a change in hardware. TBH? I had no idea what the hell it was going on about, so I just said "yes" and pressed Y.
Booted to the login screen for Win 10 and it said my pin had been disabled due to a change in TPM. Tried to change said pin, but it wanted to send a text to a phone number I haven't had for over a year. *SIGH*. Reinstalled Win 11 (was all I had available ready to go) and started to tinker. I then noticed the CPU was only clocking to 3.4ghz so I looked at the BIOS version and sure enough X3d support did not arrive until after the BIOS I had on there.
Updated the BIOS and........ Same message about TPM, same BS can't get in.
Reinstall Windows 11 for the second time and yeah, now it's done FFS. What a ball ache !
Still, it was worth it. Set DOCP after getting very confused (forgot how to do that tbh, last three builds have all been Intel where it is much clearer !) and PUBG now flies. Getting at least 30 FPS higher, and sometimes over 50. So it is deffo CPU reliant even at 1440p, but it would be because I have a lot of settings on medium and low (ones that don't matter) in order to gain higher FPS, so it puts more load on the CPU.
So yeah overall very happy, just could have done without all the aggro. BTW you can change your phone number on MSN, but it takes 30 days ffs.
So I have disabled phone as the 2FA, and changed it to my secondary email addy.
KingNosser
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I've had them kind of issues before with different things, least you solved it. I had the exact different experience to my norm with windows the other day when setting up laptop, as normally windows go's nuts when you do anything. With laptop thou turn it on go through basic set up as windows was wiped, signed into my account within windows. Weirdly it automatically did everything fully activated added to account zero issues of any kind this is a first i sat there thinking what's the catch ?
So desktop is on 11 laptop is on 10 both running stardock fences different versions and same with start 10 and start 11 v2.
It's not exactly a super fast laptop in terms of gaming, but it plays everything i expected and some far better than expected mostly emu stuff plays amazingly well.
All hooked into the 4k TV only issue i had there was setting TV on hdmi 1 into PC mode and higher hz so that the TV wasn't doing some weird flickering and stop motion weirdness.
Overall thou really happy with it for the money i spent, one of the few times on windows i've had no issues to complain or stress about just install my crap and get going with it, sure did take a while too get everything i wanted done and test things.
Where it shines is with older games and emu's basically dreamcast and before but a lot of stuff just need to find a decently priced 2tb ssd now as i'm not seeing the best prices but spotted a team group GX2 at £80 but idealy when i pick one up i'd like cheaper.
only thing i'm not a fan of is the bezels they are kinda chunky but the screen is really not bad at all on it even thou i'll mostly use it with the TV unless away, but it's a nice matte screen no glossy shine to it.
The keyboard trackpad was a good buy actually like using that small and light and very good feel to it.
The whole TPM thing i just feel is a totally unneeded thing they forced upon any new setup regardless of if the newer CPU's/mobos support it it just feels to me like it should have been optional rather than forced feature.
Using the little laptop thou reminded me just how good windows 10 is it's just a similar layout without all the weird UI changes mixed in, windows 11 would be a lot better if they focused on a main theme rather than a mix of old and new elements.
it came with an m.2 drive installed so yep need a 2.5inch ssd for it but not ripping one out of my main PC for it, just search out a budget one.
Next time whenever it'll be will be an x3d chip they are starting to be more ahead than behind an overclocked chip in most cases since they first came out kinda feels like devs are working all the magic boxes on stuff these days let alone the dlss fsr stuff.
in a way it's good and in other ways it'll just force us to upgrade quicker but progress is being made at least and some games are getting rather much harder to run stalker 2 being a concern for me i'm really unsure what my system will make of that one on release.
windows thou or bios's in general go totally mad over hardware changes where it's scanning memory or cpu etc so depending on what your doing your going to have an issue of some small kind.
AMD stuff has come a long way but in terms of bios and software Intel does do better in most ways but in other ways Intel has fallen behind but the key area is memory just always more compatible on Intel higer speeds etc on release.
just my 40 cents lol
I expect you spotted this already but as you have an unusual taste in bad bethsada games i think your like it alien
https://youtu.be/NZALCWjZADw?si=4_Gmd8rMowxGbpeg
So desktop is on 11 laptop is on 10 both running stardock fences different versions and same with start 10 and start 11 v2.
It's not exactly a super fast laptop in terms of gaming, but it plays everything i expected and some far better than expected mostly emu stuff plays amazingly well.
All hooked into the 4k TV only issue i had there was setting TV on hdmi 1 into PC mode and higher hz so that the TV wasn't doing some weird flickering and stop motion weirdness.
Overall thou really happy with it for the money i spent, one of the few times on windows i've had no issues to complain or stress about just install my crap and get going with it, sure did take a while too get everything i wanted done and test things.
Where it shines is with older games and emu's basically dreamcast and before but a lot of stuff just need to find a decently priced 2tb ssd now as i'm not seeing the best prices but spotted a team group GX2 at £80 but idealy when i pick one up i'd like cheaper.
only thing i'm not a fan of is the bezels they are kinda chunky but the screen is really not bad at all on it even thou i'll mostly use it with the TV unless away, but it's a nice matte screen no glossy shine to it.
The keyboard trackpad was a good buy actually like using that small and light and very good feel to it.
The whole TPM thing i just feel is a totally unneeded thing they forced upon any new setup regardless of if the newer CPU's/mobos support it it just feels to me like it should have been optional rather than forced feature.
Using the little laptop thou reminded me just how good windows 10 is it's just a similar layout without all the weird UI changes mixed in, windows 11 would be a lot better if they focused on a main theme rather than a mix of old and new elements.
it came with an m.2 drive installed so yep need a 2.5inch ssd for it but not ripping one out of my main PC for it, just search out a budget one.
Next time whenever it'll be will be an x3d chip they are starting to be more ahead than behind an overclocked chip in most cases since they first came out kinda feels like devs are working all the magic boxes on stuff these days let alone the dlss fsr stuff.
in a way it's good and in other ways it'll just force us to upgrade quicker but progress is being made at least and some games are getting rather much harder to run stalker 2 being a concern for me i'm really unsure what my system will make of that one on release.
windows thou or bios's in general go totally mad over hardware changes where it's scanning memory or cpu etc so depending on what your doing your going to have an issue of some small kind.
AMD stuff has come a long way but in terms of bios and software Intel does do better in most ways but in other ways Intel has fallen behind but the key area is memory just always more compatible on Intel higer speeds etc on release.
just my 40 cents lol
I expect you spotted this already but as you have an unusual taste in bad bethsada games i think your like it alien
https://youtu.be/NZALCWjZADw?si=4_Gmd8rMowxGbpeg
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