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Can AMD avoid Nvidia-like stocking issues?
Read more about AMD's Frank Azor promising that RDNA 2 won't have a "paper launch".
Read more about AMD's Frank Azor promising that RDNA 2 won't have a "paper launch".
AMD's Frank Azor promises that RDNA 2 won't have a "paper launch"
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KingNosser
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I am excited most likely the most on the forum lol
But I do feel they will compete, dreamland is what if they can best nvidia even without dlss, it's not too long a wait until the reality is here but i'd expect them to match to a point on all cards and price they will undercut.
They at least finally got a half decent cooler, that is a good change so lets hope they changed lots of other things as well
But I do feel they will compete, dreamland is what if they can best nvidia even without dlss, it's not too long a wait until the reality is here but i'd expect them to match to a point on all cards and price they will undercut.
They at least finally got a half decent cooler, that is a good change so lets hope they changed lots of other things as well
AlienALX
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The only problem is that unless they make one for every single person that wants one on release day there won't be enough.
And that isn't usually a problem but winter is coming and Covid is upon us. So every one is sitting at home bored out of their brains.
Sony couldn't cope, Microsoft couldn't cope and neither could Nvidia (though it's arguable how much they even tried....)
There were stock issues with the 3000 series at launch and that was pre Covid. I wish them luck.
And that isn't usually a problem but winter is coming and Covid is upon us. So every one is sitting at home bored out of their brains.
Sony couldn't cope, Microsoft couldn't cope and neither could Nvidia (though it's arguable how much they even tried....)
There were stock issues with the 3000 series at launch and that was pre Covid. I wish them luck.
KingNosser
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I expect they will sellout, think both companies are going to have issues for months it'll just be a case of get one when you can, unfortunately for some that might be next year.
WYP
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I think it will sell out, but I think it won't be instant like Nvidia.
Nvidia's GPUs will be taking away some demand, as RTX 3080 users are unlikely to buy a new Radeon GPU, and Nvidia has a month to try and make more sales before AMD even announces their 6000 series. Not everyone will "wait for Navi 2"
With Apple moving to 5nm with their latest silicon and Nvidia using Samsung for Geforce Ampere; AMD should have plenty of 7nm to work with, especially now that Huawei is gone from TSMC's books.
Nvidia's GPUs will be taking away some demand, as RTX 3080 users are unlikely to buy a new Radeon GPU, and Nvidia has a month to try and make more sales before AMD even announces their 6000 series. Not everyone will "wait for Navi 2"
With Apple moving to 5nm with their latest silicon and Nvidia using Samsung for Geforce Ampere; AMD should have plenty of 7nm to work with, especially now that Huawei is gone from TSMC's books.
To be fair, RDNA2 as an architecture must have been finalised quite a long time ago given it's been integrated into the APUs of both consoles, usually takes a fair bit longer to make a complete APU out of an arch than the GPUs, so they must have been "holding off" somewhat on this launch, or not super rushing to get dGPUs on sale anyway, I guess possibly due to agreements with Sony and MS, maybe to build stock, maybe because of capacity, maybe all of these bits together, that bit we can only guess
And of course, AMD have been using this node for 1 month shy of 2 years now, TSMC 7nm is fairly cheap and mature all things considered, hence why it's viable for huge console chips and such.
And of course, AMD have been using this node for 1 month shy of 2 years now, TSMC 7nm is fairly cheap and mature all things considered, hence why it's viable for huge console chips and such.
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KingNosser
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The main bulk of sales are in the midrange, so Nvidia need to do better with the 3070 over the next month, yep not everyone will wait, most people even like me have been on Nvidia for years and would always stick to that brand, but i'm willing to wait and see.
AMD sure have their work cut out, but i think if they have made real efforts in all areas, like they did the cooler with software then they are at least in with a good chance at getting extra sales.
tsmc is the better node but i'd expect most of that extra production orders will go into the consoles, there is a lot more demand in that area come christmas time.
I am excited thou, try to maintain some level of reasonable expectation i'm not expecting groundbreaking, but with a node like tsmc i'd at least expect it to be rather good even on a smaller die size.
I think the timing is all about the consoles, they will literally come out at the same time as the GPU.
AMD sure have their work cut out, but i think if they have made real efforts in all areas, like they did the cooler with software then they are at least in with a good chance at getting extra sales.
tsmc is the better node but i'd expect most of that extra production orders will go into the consoles, there is a lot more demand in that area come christmas time.
I am excited thou, try to maintain some level of reasonable expectation i'm not expecting groundbreaking, but with a node like tsmc i'd at least expect it to be rather good even on a smaller die size.
I think the timing is all about the consoles, they will literally come out at the same time as the GPU.
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