WYP
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Expect to hear more on September 10th.
Read more about AMD's response to the Ryzen 3rd Gen Boost Clock controversy.
Read more about AMD's response to the Ryzen 3rd Gen Boost Clock controversy.
AMD responds to Ryzen boost clock controversy - BIOS updates are coming
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AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Does anyone else find it strange that they didn't make sure their CPUs boosted properly before launch? I know there's always teething problems, but this seems critical.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
I don't see it as a problem tbh. It's a max clock speed you'll see on a single core. Not many people only use one core anymore.
Most people are just upset they aren't getting 50-100mhz more clock speed that honestly won't improve performance much especially since most people who would care are gamers.
Most people are just upset they aren't getting 50-100mhz more clock speed that honestly won't improve performance much especially since most people who would care are gamers.
Few games now would only load a single core, which is what the max boost refers to, so it probably wouldn't apply to many games post DX11/~2010. Though we're talking about ~25Mhz difference, this is a marketing move, they only defined what the Max Boost actually was about a week ago.
Zoot
Active member
I've seen my 3700X hit 4375MHz & 4392MHz after prolonged period of gaming, but only on 1 or 2 cores. My 6700k when left long enough used to always hit 4.2GHz on all cores. I guess people have gotten used to how Intel does things, and expect AMD to be the same.
Der8auer is kind of right to call it out and draw attention to it just to force a statement from AMD.
Personally though, I don't care about an extra 25MHz, the performance is there for me and that's what matters.
Der8auer is kind of right to call it out and draw attention to it just to force a statement from AMD.
Personally though, I don't care about an extra 25MHz, the performance is there for me and that's what matters.
demonking
New member
They might have on launch, we've seen quite a few revisions of AGESA and BIOS updates since then and this might have been missed. Fix one bug and up pops another 10. I am normally pretty cynical about these sort of things but the fact AMD have acknowledged it and are preparing a fix is alot more honest than you would see many other companies doing. They could quite easily have gone the standard IT problem issue and blamed something our end.
The_Governour
New member
If they say it boosts to 4.X amount then it SHOULD be the standard of MOST cpus.... There was no need for this bull marketing, AMD cpus are a great as they are.
But when only like what was it 6% of the 3900x boosts to their STATED amounts then AMD SHOULD be called out...
But when only like what was it 6% of the 3900x boosts to their STATED amounts then AMD SHOULD be called out...
I wish some of these tech companies would simply do what BMW did years back: under-rate their stats. BMW began UNDER-rating the HP numbers of their cars, and now are seen sort of as "under promising / over-delivering" (whether that's true or not is debatable). If AMD would just publish lower marketing numbers, imagine how it would look when Joe Average buys a new AMD rig that boosts HIGHER than it's marketing claims. They'd be getting heaps of praise instead of scorn, and all they need to do is change the marketing.
What games are you playing that only use a single core? Most of the games that I have been playing have been using multiple cores, for example, BFV uses up around 8-9 cores on my 3900x.
My 3900x was hitting 4.65GHz with my original BIOS but I updated to a beta BIOS for the AGESA 1.0.0.3ABB firmware and now I have no idea what boost clocks I am getting as it broke monitoring but my single core R15 score went down by about 5-10%.
It's important to remember that nearly all major CPU launches in the last 5-10 years are plagued by some initial difficulties or bugs.
If AMD can resolve the boost issues then great, we can review the discussion once they've issued a fix.
RobM
Active member
They should not have claimed the frequencies if they were unattainable.
I suspect the issue is more binning than bios
Pretty much all MMO games still use single thread.
I think the same. But if you advertise or market a given specification and don't fulfill that, its false advertising and expect heavy fines.
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Avet
Active member
It doesn't matter if it is just 25 MHz or that it is not a noticeable difference. False advertisement is a serious offense. AMD just got slammed with a $12 million dollars fine for falsely advertizing core count on Bulldozer. They can easily get even bigger fine just months after for core speeds on Zen 2. They are not Intel. Intel can lose the whole value of AMD and just shake it off. AMD just started to get some profit. And they probably aren't even close to fulfilling the promises made to shareholders. This is a big problem for them. They cannot afford to lose shareholder's money on stupid marketing mistakes.
