AMD Polaris 10 and Polaris 11 Specifications leak

[WYP]

Specifications for AMD's Polaris 10 and Polaris 11 GPUs have appeared online, hinting that Polaris 10 will have R9 290X like compute performance with half the power draw.



Read more on these leaked Polaris Specifications.

 

[Tolemac]

Interesting stuff for me anyways

 

[Fetchez La Vache]

Interesting stuff for me anyways

Same, now that Octane & VrayRT are implimenting OpenCL support for their render engines 8Gb of VRAM on cheaper cards is much more interesting to me.

 

[A7ibaba]

I don't understand AMD. They are collapsing on financial market,yet they talking about power efficiency of Polaris 10 and offer R9 290X performance. They must realize gamers don't care if they GPU running on 6 Pin or 2 pin. WE WANT POWER.If that require 4 - 8 PIN connectors and 500 TDP,Bring it Baby !!!!

 

[AngryGoldfish]

I don't understand AMD. They are collapsing on financial market,yet they talking about power efficiency of Polaris 10 and offer R9 290X performance. They must realize gamers don't care if they GPU running on 6 Pin or 2 pin. WE WANT POWER.If that require 4 - 8 PIN connectors and 500 TDP,Bring it Baby !!!!

Polaris is reported to replace the 300 series, not the Fury series. The 300 series is the one that is suffering. A 390 draws more power than a 980ti and a 380 draws more power than a 980. That's abysmal. Raw performance isn't everything. The only pros keeping those cards on the market are the value aspects and DX12 benchmarks. If someone reads a review on a big website like TechPowerUp and sees criticism directed at the 380 for drawing more power than the substantially better 980, that does not bode well for AMD. It perpetuates the idea that their cards are not well engineered. Power efficiency is equally as important as raw power, even if it's just on paper. Not everyone is willing to look into where the 380 came from or what it signifies. They don't know Polaris is coming out to replace the 380. The Fury line is still strong. It will only start to see problems when when the 1080 and 1070 are released and readily available. The 300 series is what really needs revitalizing. Vega will revitalize the Fury line in October and beyond.

 

[Fetchez La Vache]

I don't understand AMD. They are collapsing on financial market,yet they talking about power efficiency of Polaris 10 and offer R9 290X performance. They must realize gamers don't care if they GPU running on 6 Pin or 2 pin. WE WANT POWER.If that require 4 - 8 PIN connectors and 500 TDP,Bring it Baby !!!!

Given that the vast majority of cards being sold are mid to lower teir cards clearly gamers care more than just outright power. I'd suggest budget is a much bigger concern to the majority of gamers.

Unfortunately Nvidia seemed to have tapped into the inner sheep of a lot people by releasing their upper teir cards first building up an awful lot of hype with overrated Canadian DJs and Youtubers fawning over their products, then those that can't afford them just decide to buy one of their lower teir cards instead without even considering AMD because they have aleady emitionally attached themselves to Nvidia's brand.

 

[Raphael]

Polaris 11 = 470 series
Polaris 10 = 480 series
Vega 11 = 490 series
Vega 10 = new fury series

This is what I think will be AMDs new lineup.

 

[NeverBackDown]

C'mon WYP, everyone knows this isn't a 1080 competitor. Don't try to compare them, AMD have said it's a midrange replacement for a reason. Vega 10/11 is where the competition will come from

 

[notcool]

I don't understand AMD. They are collapsing on financial market,yet they talking about power efficiency of Polaris 10 and offer R9 290X performance. They must realize gamers don't care if they GPU running on 6 Pin or 2 pin. WE WANT POWER.If that require 4 - 8 PIN connectors and 500 TDP,Bring it Baby !!!!

You wouldn't be saying that if you ever owned a GTX 480 it was dam fast for its time but it was like having 3 heaters in your room, in the summer I pretty much couldn't play games. :mellow:

 

[jmaster299]

C'mon WYP, everyone knows this isn't a 1080 competitor. Don't try to compare them, AMD have said it's a midrange replacement for a reason. Vega 10/11 is where the competition will come from

Wrong. Vega will replace the Fury line, which competes with the Titan/Ti line. Which Nvidia will release just in time to compete with Vega.

These Polaris cards won't even beat the 1070, and at only $399, the 1070 is mainstream. It's the upper end of mainstream, but mainstream nonetheless. Also, we will see the 1060 in the next month or two to compete directly against these Polaris cards at $299

 

[A7ibaba]

Ok,this is what they called,eve of the battle. Battle will be won with AMD Vega or nVidia GP100 when HBM2 comes.

 

[AngryGoldfish]

Wrong. Vega will replace the Fury line, which competes with the Titan/Ti line. Which Nvidia will release just in time to compete with Vega.

These Polaris cards won't even beat the 1070, and at only $399, the 1070 is mainstream. It's the upper end of mainstream, but mainstream nonetheless. Also, we will see the 1060 in the next month or two to compete directly against these Polaris cards at $299

Maybe, maybe not. What proof do you have for your stipulations?

In my opinion, the Fury (non X) was a direct response from AMD to the 980. It was better than the 980, but also more expensive. However, the Fury X wasn't better than the 980ti, at least for the first six or so months. So depending on how you see it, whether you think a loss or a win constitutes direct competition, the Fury cards were 980 competitors and succeeded or they were 980ti/Titan X competitors and failed.

How I see it (AMD winning):

Fury Nano > 970 (small form factor, low power consumption, high performance)
Fury > 980 (high-end air cooled GPU)
980ti > Fury X (enthusiast GPU)

With that in mind, Vega 10 will compete with 1080 while Vega 11 will compete with Titanium edition 1080. The 1070 is a mystery to me at the moment as we don't know its specifications or performance. Is it going to be as close to the 1080 as the 970 was to the 980? Based on the reported TFLOPS performance, the 1070 will be more like a slightly overclocked 980ti while the 1080 will be more like overclocked 980 SLI.

You could also see it differently (nVidia winning):

980 > Fury Nano (the overclocking headroom of the 980 makes it a better GPU)
980ti > Fury (the Fury only beats the 980ti in certain DX12 tests)
Titan X > Fury X (the Fury X only beats the Titan X in certain DX12 tests)

I personally don't see it that way, though. The Fury X was never supposed to compete with the Titan X. I'm sure if AMD charged over $1000 for a GPU, they could also have made an absolute beast—they did so with the 295X2 and Pro Duo. However, they chose not to. Why? Because their competition was the 980 and 980ti.

 

[ImprovizoR]

I don't understand AMD. They are collapsing on financial market,yet they talking about power efficiency of Polaris 10 and offer R9 290X performance. They must realize gamers don't care if they GPU running on 6 Pin or 2 pin. WE WANT POWER.If that require 4 - 8 PIN connectors and 500 TDP,Bring it Baby !!!!

It depends on pricing. And power efficiency is important. If they release a card that doesn't compete very well with Nvidia's offering but is power efficient they can take the same chip, sacrifice some power efficiency for added performance and release a new version that does compete. There's a lot more room to tweak TDP vs performance when you have power efficiency sorted out.

However, Nvidia could simply slash prices on their 900 models and that might be enough to destroy AMD this year. I don't know what the hell is going on at that company and why they seem unable to release anything exciting.

 

[Porxster]

I don't understand AMD. They are collapsing on financial market,yet they talking about power efficiency of Polaris 10 and offer R9 290X performance. They must realize gamers don't care if they GPU running on 6 Pin or 2 pin. WE WANT POWER.If that require 4 - 8 PIN connectors and 500 TDP,Bring it Baby !!!!

You make too much sense man.
Unlike them tree hugging, self righteous haters in need of any attention possible.

Who cares if it sucks power galore, I want performance galore, Too hot? Who cares? Water cool that sucker and hang on for a rough ride Dixie!

 

[CreatiXx]

Well actually people do care about power consumption, thats how people in our shop advert nvidia...

 

[Dicehunter]

You make too much sense man.
Unlike them tree hugging, self righteous haters in need of any attention possible.

Who cares if it sucks power galore, I want performance galore, Too hot? Who cares? Water cool that sucker and hang on for a rough ride Dixie!

He really didn't make any sense IMO.

I care about power as do a great many others.

It's one of the reasons I sold my 295X2 only 2 weeks after getting it, Yes it was 2 GPU's but still I've had dual GPU setups in the past that didn't suck up that much juice.

If we can have powerful while not needing a lot of electricity then it's a win win situation.

 

[xnax2802]

You make too much sense man.
Unlike them tree hugging, self righteous haters in need of any attention possible.

Who cares if it sucks power galore, I want performance galore, Too hot? Who cares? Water cool that sucker and hang on for a rough ride Dixie!

If people don't care about power consumption and temps, then why is that the only argument I see thrown at AMD EVERY TIME someone fanboys over an NVidia card?

 

[NeverBackDown]

Wrong. Vega will replace the Fury line, which competes with the Titan/Ti line. Which Nvidia will release just in time to compete with Vega.

These Polaris cards won't even beat the 1070, and at only $399, the 1070 is mainstream. It's the upper end of mainstream, but mainstream nonetheless. Also, we will see the 1060 in the next month or two to compete directly against these Polaris cards at $299

Thank you for saying exactly what I just said. Nice reading comprehension...
I said Vega will compete with the 1080. I also said Polaris is for mainstream. Tell me exactly what is wrong with that? It's the same thing you just said?

 

[Kushiro]

Meh, IF it turns out to be fun to OC, itll be purchased either way.

Too bad my AMD trifire PC wont be as good of a heater after I upgrade.

 

[AngryGoldfish]

The idea of having a ridiculous powerful chip irrelevant of power consumption is a bit of a fallacy. The higher the TDP and power draw, the hotter the card is, usually. This means lower clock speeds and faster fan speeds. It also can signify overclocks as bad as the Fury X, which was one of its biggest criticisms. The 980 can beat a Fury because of its efficiency, not because of its raw power. If the 980 was a hot, hungry GPU, 1580/8000Mhz overclocks might not be possible.