AMD is reportedly sampling quad core Ryzen CPUs

[WYP]

AMD has reportedly started sampling quad-core Ryzen CPUs without hyperthreading, which should compete with Intel's i3 and i5 CPU lineup.



Read more on AMD's 4 core 4 thread Ryzen CPUs.

 

[Shingara]

Seems strange that the 4 core wouldnt have hyperthreading, i would have thought that would be a great feather in its cap, espec as there isnt anything stopping these running in an x370 board.

Would they do this simply from a cost point of view ?

 

[nogaii]

Seems strange that the 4 core wouldnt have hyperthreading, i would have thought that would be a great feather in its cap, espec as there isnt anything stopping these running in an x370 board.

Would they do this simply from a cost point of view ?

Probably this would be the lowest possible configuration, I think, there will be 4C 8T CPU too.

But what do I know? We'll see...

 

[Daiyus]

Probably this would be the lowest possible configuration, I think, there will be 4C 8T CPU too.

But what do I know? We'll see...

I hope so too. The way I can imagine it happening is there'll be a line to match each Intel Kabylake tier:

Intel Pentium [2C4T] : AMD Ryzen Phenom [4C4T]
Intel Core i3 [2C4T] : AMD Ryzen SR3 [4C8T]
Intel Core i5 [4C4T] : AMD Ryzen SR5 [6C12T]
Intel Core i7 [4C8T] : AMD Ryzen SR7 [8C16T]

 

[CRITICALThinker]

I hope so too. The way I can imagine it happening is there'll be a line to match each Intel Kabylake tier:

Intel Pentium [2C4T] : AMD Ryzen Phenom [4C4T]
Intel Core i3 [2C4T] : AMD Ryzen SR3 [4C8T]
Intel Core i5 [4C4T] : AMD Ryzen SR5 [6C12T]
Intel Core i7 [4C8T] : AMD Ryzen SR7 [8C16T]

I have a feeling you aren't far off, but I think they are going to match i3 with 4C4T, and go from there up to x99 i7 matching with the 8C16T. It would appear that the 10C20T i7 remains at the top though, unless AMD plans to introduce a HEDT line in the future.

 

[Dawelio]

I have a feeling you aren't far off, but I think they are going to match i3 with 4C4T, and go from there up to x99 i7 matching with the 8C16T. It would appear that the 10C20T i7 remains at the top though, unless AMD plans to introduce a HEDT line in the future.

Yeah, well how many people has or will actually buy that? Not that many people I reckon...

 

[NeverBackDown]

I have a feeling you aren't far off, but I think they are going to match i3 with 4C4T, and go from there up to x99 i7 matching with the 8C16T. It would appear that the 10C20T i7 remains at the top though, unless AMD plans to introduce a HEDT line in the future.

The 10C part is probably the king still. But then again, did you really expect say a $500 CPU to go toe to toe with a $1500 CPU? I mean, it gets pretty close which is the most impressive part.

 

[AlienALX]

My prediction.

£150-£180 will be quad core, I5 equivalent but I3 price.
£200-£220 will be I7 equivalent for I5 price.
£250-£300 will be 6 core 12 thread for I7 4c8t price.
£350+ will be 8 core 16 thread low clock.
£400+ will all be 8 core.

They have a chance to do what Intel have not done, and that is release chips with 8c 16t at different clock speeds, binning them for clocks as they go.

However in the past we have had three or four 6c chips from AMD varying in price and OC. 1055T 1090T and 1100T. Intel have never bothered doing that.

 

[Shingara]

My prediction.

£150-£180 will be quad core, I5 equivalent but I3 price.
£200-£220 will be I7 equivalent for I5 price.
£250-£300 will be 6 core 12 thread for I7 4c8t price.
£350+ will be 8 core 16 thread low clock.
£400+ will all be 8 core.

They have a chance to do what Intel have not done, and that is release chips with 8c 16t at different clock speeds, binning them for clocks as they go.

However in the past we have had three or four 6c chips from AMD varying in price and OC. 1055T 1090T and 1100T. Intel have never bothered doing that.

Dont think your far off, but i think there is just going tobe a -

4c4t- £120 ish
6c12t £170 ish
8c16t £250 ish

then the binned 8c16t at the top

I say that as the apus are going to slot in there too.

 

[NeverBackDown]

For US prices, it'll probably be what you said Alien but well.. in $
$130-160
$190-240
$280-320
$350-380
And $450 for the "Black Edition" or whatever they call it.

Also depends on how many SKUs they have at launch. It should either shrink or expand these ranges.

 

[AlienALX]

Dont think your far off, but i think there is just going tobe a -

4c4t- £120 ish
6c12t £170 ish
8c16t £250 ish

then the binned 8c16t at the top

I say that as the apus are going to slot in there too.

Zen is an APU dude so they will do it in loads of different configs. Apparently for now they are sticking with what they have for the low end APU stuff but eventually it will be all Zen.

Summit Ridge? I think that is what they are going to use for now.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Zen is an APU dude so they will do it in loads of different configs. Apparently for now they are sticking with what they have for the low end APU stuff but eventually it will be all Zen.

Summit Ridge? I think that is what they are going to use for now.

Zen isn't an APU yet.... Just a SoC acting like a high performance CPU
A Zen APU sounds game changing though for budget builds. Imagine a Zen APU with a 460 equal chip? Would be amazing for budget players.

Pretty sure Summit Ridge is dead now? Wasn't that the codename? Or is it the chipset family now?

 

[AlienALX]

Zen isn't an APU yet.... Just a SoC acting like a high performance CPU
A Zen APU sounds game changing though for budget builds. Imagine a Zen APU with a 460 equal chip? Would be amazing for budget players.

From what I have read that is exactly what it's supposed to be. How the heck are they going to get any laptop deals going otherwise?

We'll see I guess. Maybe that's why they are sticking with Summit Ridge for now? stupid though, they're pretty crap.

 

[Shingara]

Zen is an APU dude so they will do it in loads of different configs. Apparently for now they are sticking with what they have for the low end APU stuff but eventually it will be all Zen.

Summit Ridge? I think that is what they are going to use for now.

Well zen is the base architecture, ryzen (summit ridge) is the cpu and 'insert new name here (raven ridge) is the apu.

I think the timeline they have said is summit ridge end of feb q1 and raven ridge is around q3

Edit, oo great name for the apu, Zenra

 

[NeverBackDown]

From what I have read that is exactly what it's supposed to be. How the heck are they going to get any laptop deals going otherwise?

We'll see I guess. Maybe that's why they are sticking with Summit Ridge for now? stupid though, they're pretty crap.

They sell mobile variants of it? Lol
They are releasing Desktop, then HPC/Server/Datacenters/etc, then mobile. Don't expect mobile till end of year. Zen APUs iirc were rumored for late this year and early next. so that lines up with the mobile release date. Don't know if they will put an APU in a laptop though. Or at least a high performance one.

 

[Thelosouvlakia]

If the APUs can perform as good as an i5 and if they can reach high DDR4 speeds bringing them to close gtx1050/rx460 performance it's going to be epic

 

[AngryGoldfish]

My prediction.

£150-£180 will be quad core, I5 equivalent but I3 price.
£200-£220 will be I7 equivalent for I5 price.
£250-£300 will be 6 core 12 thread for I7 4c8t price.
£350+ will be 8 core 16 thread low clock.
£400+ will all be 8 core.

They have a chance to do what Intel have not done, and that is release chips with 8c 16t at different clock speeds, binning them for clocks as they go.

However in the past we have had three or four 6c chips from AMD varying in price and OC. 1055T 1090T and 1100T. Intel have never bothered doing that.

I would like to see a 6 core with 12 thread CPU that's binned to have higher clocks for around €350. Best of both worlds, really.